The point being that "last man standing" isn't necessarily a measure of how successful a species is, either.
It would be kind of crazy if we discovered that Venus and Mars had life. That would suggest that some of the Earth-like exoplanets should have life on them.
Question is... does that level of phosphine require the microbes to be still existent today? Maybe they existed back in the days and Venus was a more habitable planet for microbial life in these times?
I mean, life on earth neraly extinguished itself when these cyano-algae started exhaling oxygen en masse...
Sure. But then, I'm questioning the idea measuring how "successful" a species is. There's a value judgement in that. But their existence is really just the result/part of a natural process, right? So's a tropical storm. I suppose that means we should have discussions on which hurricane is more successful?
If you want to compare two species on some metric, that's fine. But just name the metric, rather than obfuscate it as "success". "Success" is a concept devised for humans to sort out their ridiculous social hierarchies.
Length of "reign."
Yeah. The current reaction in most media sources seems to be cautious enough, but I could see some jumping to conclusions, like they did with that "alternate dimension discovery" earlier this year.
OK, this is weird. I have worked in astroparticle physics from time to time, so I keep up reasonably well with the scientific literature, and I've been quite aware of the ANITA neutrino experiment. But I totally missed that some places in the mainstream press were saying that it was evidence of a backward universe!Yeah. The current reaction in most media sources seems to be cautious enough, but I could see some jumping to conclusions, like they did with that "alternate dimension discovery" earlier this year.
I don't know about the phosphine, but I'm guessing most of the missing sodium fluoride is going into Venusian toothpaste and municipal water supplies. . . which relies on the industry theory.Phosphine in the upper atmosphere of Venus. The scientists so far can't come up with a way of having that much phosphine without microbial life or industry (and they're ruling out the latter!)