Is this PHB errata?

[1of3]

But WotC designers have explicitly stated that isn't the case here - a writer wrote that sidebar without realizing how the implement rules worked, and made an incorrect statement.

Interesting (and sad). Do you have a link?

 

[Aulirophile]

That a year old FAQ doesn't overrule a FAQ released in hard copy a couple weeks ago.

In a book whose intro states it is not a rulebook.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

I'm leaning towards the FAQ being accurate. So does anyone know if there is a Divine version of the Arcane Implement Proficiency feat (found in Arcane Power)?

 

[Aulirophile]

I'm leaning towards the FAQ being accurate. So does anyone know if there is a Divine version of the Arcane Implement Proficiency feat (found in Arcane Power)?

There isn't. If you want to post the specific thing you're trying to accomplish might have some ideas.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

There isn't. If you want to post the specific thing you're trying to accomplish might have some ideas.

See post #5 in this thread; a bow ranger|invoker who doesn't have to rely on a rod or staff to use his invoker powers. I'm sure a can use some combination of Quick Draw and something else to allow sheathing as a free action (such a thing must exist), but I'd rather not have to swap between the bow and rod in battle - not fond of the imagery.

 

[DracoSuave]

In a book whose intro states it is not a rulebook.

Irrelevant, it's a Rules FAQ.

Unless it gets errata'd, it's MRP.

Also the words 'This is not a rule book' do not appear in this introduction. What it says is that game elements mentioned are not found in that book.

However, the book is written and designed by Andy Collins and James Wyatt, heads of development and design respectively at the time the book was made.

They are more credible sources than yourself, who claims that page four says it's not a rulebook (which it doesn't, or is that relevant) and therefore a rules faq in there cannot be taken as a rules faq despite the fact the header says FAQ and it is about RULES.

 

[MrMyth]

Interesting (and sad). Do you have a link?

Here's the link. I had thought it was proclaimed by an actual designer (and might be elsewhere), since I know that CS can be rather hit or miss. On the other hand, this doesn't sound like simply a random opinion from CustServ, but a pretty clear statement that the ruling in the book was in error.

Which... a shame, yeah, but it does happen, and I've seen worse mistakes about the rules in designer articles long before this one.

 

[MrMyth]

See post #5 in this thread; a bow ranger|invoker who doesn't have to rely on a rod or staff to use his invoker powers. I'm sure a can use some combination of Quick Draw and something else to allow sheathing as a free action (such a thing must exist), but I'd rather not have to swap between the bow and rod in battle - not fond of the imagery.

I imagine that, as an invoker, you've already settled upon a specific deity for the character. But, if not.. I think Sehanine offers something along those lines, a feat to use bows as divine implements or some such.

 

[Aulirophile]

Irrelevant, it's a Rules FAQ.

Unless it gets errata'd, it's MRP.

Also the words 'This is not a rule book' do not appear in this introduction. What it says is that game elements mentioned are not found in that book.

However, the book is written and designed by Andy Collins and James Wyatt, heads of development and design respectively at the time the book was made.

They are more credible sources than yourself, who claims that page four says it's not a rulebook (which it doesn't, or is that relevant) and therefore a rules faq in there cannot be taken as a rules faq despite the fact the header says FAQ and it is about RULES.

So really what you're saying is you dearly want it to be a rule book despite the fact that multiple sources from WotC have said it is both wrong and not a rule book. It is a series of tips and suggestions for players. Can you stop ranting about it in every thread where the PSG can be held up a flimsy excuse for contradicting established rules now?

@Ulorian: Dragon 386, Moonbow Dedicate, must worship Sehanine.

Benefit: You gain proficiency with the shortbow,
plus you can use a shortbow as an implement for
divine and arcane powers. In addition, you gain a +1
feat bonus to weapon and implement damage rolls
with the shortbow. Increase this bonus to +2 at 11th
level and +3 at 21st level.
Moonbow Stalker

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

@Ailurophile: Thanks! I 'must spread Experience Points blahblahblah' before giving to you again. Maybe someone will step in and hand you some on my behalf.