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Jackie Chan Quits...

frankthedm said:
"The One" was a fine movie. I would love to see a sequel set on the prison planet.

Seriously? I think you're the first person I've ever heard say that.

For Jet Li, his movies seemed to either be awesome [kiss of the dragon, hero] or crap [the one, cradle to the grave], or at least the American ones.

*Above is simply my opinion, btw.

Never did like Jackie Chan much. Too much slapstick martial arts, though Rush Hours and Shanghai Noon were good.
 

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takyris said:
What drove stakes of pain through my eyes was "The Tuxedo", and what lit those stakes on fire was "The Medallion". I like Jackie Chan being Jackie Chan. There are many other people I'd rather watch do wire-fu or bluescreen acting.

I think it was Roger Ebert who pointed out that Hollywood has to think of "magic" ways to explain why Jackie Chan can do the things he can do in real life.

I've also really been disapointed with the Hollywood fare that our favorite HK action stars and directors have been handled.

Though I liked "The One" as well. Not a great film, but decent popcorn time.
 

As far as Jackie Chan quitting goes, I've seen him say in different places that he wants to distance himself from the martial arts movies because he wants to make more children accessible (non-violent) fare, to (most recently) wanting to be seen as an actor like Robert de Niro.
 

I rather liked The One as well, it wasn't just some decent wire-fu it was different enough that it was pretty cool. And when I saw it in the cinema I hoped it would generate a sequal since they set up an open end for it. Alas I heard some rumors about a sequal being planned or written than dropped because of the way the first one tanked.

On the other side I went in and sat all through Hero all the way even though I hated it. The wire-fu was just plain beautiful. But it was also a peace of nationalist propaganda originally produced and filmed by a production group entirely owned by the Chinese Army, and the entire plot and thought processes in the movie were SO alien I thought they were disgusting.

That's one of those big hurdles with lots of famous Asian actors from the various movie scenes over there. The culture and even the way people think and what they like in a movie is so different it's very hard to jump that gap successfully.
 

librarius_arcana said:
Hey I liked the Rush Hours, but true 80 days etc did suck ass,

Not all bad though, ;)
That's what I mean when I stated "mostly bad-to-boring films."

Rush Hour is the only good Jackie Chan film with Hollywood handprints on it. Aside from that, bad ju-ju medicine.
 

Cthulhudrew said:
As far as Jackie Chan quitting goes, I've seen him say in different places that he wants to distance himself from the martial arts movies because he wants to make more children accessible (non-violent) fare, to (most recently) wanting to be seen as an actor like Robert de Niro.
I don't think the audience would buy a Chinese goodfella, or a Corleone. :\
 

HeavenShallBurn said:
That's one of those big hurdles with lots of famous Asian actors from the various movie scenes over there. The culture and even the way people think and what they like in a movie is so different it's very hard to jump that gap successfully.
Yeah, and that's when Hollywood thought of a stoopid solution: let's westernize imported films.

Many years later, the Complete Warrior samurai class is born.

*shakes head in disappointment* Baka.
 

Ranger REG said:
I don't think the audience would buy a Chinese goodfella, or a Corleone. :\


Actually though, a remake of one of the best Hong Kong crime dramas (Infernal Affairs) is about to be released ("The Departed", starring a bunch of A list guys, directed by Martin Scorcsese)

Granted, it's been Americanized (or East-Coast-ized), but pretty much same basic plot.
 

trancejeremy said:
Actually though, a remake of one of the best Hong Kong crime dramas (Infernal Affairs) is about to be released ("The Departed", starring a bunch of A list guys, directed by Martin Scorcsese)

Granted, it's been Americanized (or East-Coast-ized), but pretty much same basic plot.
Meh. I can forgive that (like The Magnificent Seven is a western adaptation of Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai). It's when Leonardo starts doing gun-fu moves would I definitely invoke great disappointment.
 

Let's see... Jet Lee and my reaction to him.

Leathal Weapon 4: Alright, this guy is awesome. Need to get him in some other films.

The One: Popcorn movie but not my type. M'eh.

Kiss Of the Dragon: If they edited out the ugly girl playing the doped up hooker, this might've been a very solid movie but as it stands, one of the worst movies I've seen.

Hero: I enjoyed it. Lots of great fighting sequences and I'm afraid I'm very insensitive to the PC stuff going on as I neither know about it or spend nights awake worrying about the Chineese government.

Craddle 2 the Grave: Amusing but why does he let a known criminal walk away? Why is he 'surprised' by DMX when he's beaten senseless so many other people? (Same problem in Exit Wounds)

Unleashed: Pretty good popcorn flick. Probably my favorite 'western' movie of his.

Haven't seen any of his 'Once Upon A Time In China' films though.
 

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