D&D 5E (2024) Jeremy Crawford: “We are releasing new editions of the books”

[UngeheuerLich]

And thats without getting into the fact that you basically just called OneDND band aid lol.

No. I called tasha and so on band aids. Probably I misunderstood you that you said you wanted just a compilation of previous changes.

 

[mamba]

They exist concurrently because Wizards says they do.

yeah, because what WotC says is always what happens. They can exist concurrently because WotC designs them that way. WotC has no control over whether you stay with 5e, move to 1D&D entirely, or mix the two. Just like they had no control over who stayed with 3e and who moved to 4e.

The difference now is that there is a third option and even those who decide to stay with 5e are not being left behind, they way they were with 4e

 

[mamba]

I think thats something everyone here should be able to agree on, that if this was just a genuine update and nothing else, nobody here would have a problem with it.

I am not even sure you agree with that… or we have a very different understanding of what a genuine update is

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Deleted.

 

[mamba]

if it is a continuation why will new player facing content not support it?

because the continuation is the 2024 Warlock

 

[Vaalingrade]

yeah, because what WotC says is always what happens.

Whoa there now. Wouldn't want someone to come along and harangue you for three days and 17 pages accusing you of calling Mighty WotC liars.

 

[mamba]

explicitly calls my own assessments educated guesses

You: "you think they're not just guesses"

If you think yours are guesses and I say mine are guesses, then why do you hound me for acknowledging that?

And you can miss me with the predictable "but its just a guess!!" response.

 

[Remathilis]

UA has always been seen as  exceedingly optional.

So flip your script, if a DM was only using the UA spellless ranger and you just wanted to play the bog-standard PHB one, what should happen?

 

[mamba]

Whoa there now. Wouldn't want someone to come along and harangue you for three days and 17 pages accusing you of calling Mighty WotC liars.

you seem to do it all the time

I only said they cannot predict the future or control our decisions

 

[UngeheuerLich]

You fix problems by making a new edition that fixes problems, not by making a half replacement, half confusing splatbook with different versions of the same-named things, including all the classes and the title, but still telling people they can use the fixed and un-fixed versions at the same time. That is marketing, not design.

If adventures work with either rules, I am totally fine.
If old subclasses work with minor home fixes: even better.

If at some point those old subclasses receive an update. Totally ok.

So I like the half variant because of that.
It won't be confusing for most people.


There will be 3 kinds of people:

- Using old books and not buying new books.

- Owning old books and buying the nw one, totally conscious of the changes.

- Newcomers who buy the new books which will have a big disclaimer, that books printed before 2024 need to be prepared to do some updates to subclasses. The UA already has such a disclaimer (without the receipe to fix it).
On top of that: old books won't be reprinted.

The third group might encounter minor confusion when buying old books nontheless. But my brother bought a 3e arkham horror for his 2e arkham horror game. So calling it a new edition does not necessarily prevent that from happening. Also calling it 6e might people wonder why the old 5e adventures still work fine enough with the new rule set.
So I am all for 5e with revised written in big letters on the cover and a big disaimer on a few pages so you just can't miss it.