Just got Complete Divine -- any issues I should be aware of?

[Psion]

Radiant Servant is "more cleric than cleric". Considering that the cleric is already lamented as being overpowered, I'd nerf or exclude it.

 

[Prism]

I rate sacred exorcist as more powerful than radiant servant with no feat prereq either. Both are better than straight cleric in the fact they lose next to nothing and gain stuff

Also, a few spells have been redone in spell compendium - i think spikes and brambles are in Complete Divine and have been reworked

 

[Felon]

It's not just that radiant servant is "more cleric than cleric", but also that it's a walk-in. The requirements are a joke. There is no reason why any cleric of Pelor shouldn't become a radiant servant if the option is available.

 

[radferth]

Taken as a whole, the druid spells turn the druid into a potential spell-damage-dealin'-machine. Thats fine, if thats what you want, but it's not at all what I want driuds like IMC. It has (IMHO) a poorer selection of prestige classes than the other complete whoever books. I don't think Exorcist or Radiant soP are particularly overpowered, it's that they pretty blatantly get something for nothing. My player's aren't particularly into prestige classes, but I would suggest making them pay with something like poor BAB.

 

[billd91]

Don't sweat the Radiant Servant's power. Sure, it's potent but also very channeled and you have to forego some nice domain choices available from Pelor to get it. It's not that bad having someone in the party who is a little over powered on undead turning and healing.

 

[Joshua Randall]

Relics are the greatest thing since sliced bread. If you can't get at least a dozen adventures, maybe even entire campaigns, out of them, you're just not trying.

 

[frankthedm]

I recommend not having this chat with a player, since it's basically concealing vindictiveness under a thin disguise of fairness. When I hear this "wire mother" logic from a DM, I can't help but visualize the DM as some inebriated wife-beater, rationalizing why the player brought his doom upon himself: "I just wanted to sit down and drink a beer and play some friendly D&D, real nice and peaceful-like. I wouldn't even a thought 'bout touchin' the Practiced Spellcaster feat, but then you had just to go and take it, didn't ya? Now you done asked for it! Oh, why oh why do you make me do these things to you, Brandine?"

I suggested giving the player fair warning ahead of time so they understand the feat ups the ante. It is like whan a player in a game that has stuck close to the core rules says "Toughness sucks, how about Including Improved toughness?" I feel it is being fair to say "Everyone wants more HP, so a lot of folks are going to take that feat. Are you sure you want to see HP go up like that in the game?"

 

[Kwitchit]

Remember- Practised Spellcaster only gives you caster levels, not new spells...

 

[pawsplay]

Don't sweat the Radiant Servant's power. Sure, it's potent but also very channeled and you have to forego some nice domain choices available from Pelor to get it. It's not that bad having someone in the party who is a little over powered on undead turning and healing.

It is a nice little upgrade, but you do lose a size in hit die, it takes a bunch of ranks in a skill you will never use again (Heal), and for full effectiveness it requires the Healing domain, which people do not usually want to take. It's a sweetheart deal, to be sure, but it's not accurate to say it comes without any significant costs. The Extra Turning feat also locks in one of your choices, which is significant if someone wants to enter the class at a fairly low level.

If RSP is what you want, pretty much exactly, then it's advantageous, but how is that not true of any specialized class?

I also question whether they are overpowered.... they can burn undead like no one's business, but few campaigns are all undead, all the time. And their healing advantages amount to "free Sudden metamagic feats, that can only be used for healing spells."

When I first saw the class, I was like, "Yikes!" But's a good kind of yikes. Very slight reduction in hit dice, some significant restrictions on how you build your character, in exchange for greater ability in certain circumstances.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

RSoP isn't a big issue for me, since Greater Turning has been removed from my campaign anyway. (I'm not a fan of a single lucky roll killing off an undead BBEG.)