D&D 5E (2014) Just read Vengeance of the Iron Dwarf...

Book series don't have to end with the protagonist's death. "Ending the series" does not have to be synonymous with "killing Drizz't" (or whoever). Just sayin'.

No, it doesn't, but everyone who hates Drizzt will be much happier if he's dead. ;)

Cheers!
 

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No, it doesn't, but everyone who hates Drizzt will be much happier if he's dead. ;)


Cheers!

Hate leads to the darkside...

Now, to the real topic of discussion,

Im now re-reading Crystal Shard, Streams of Silver, Halflings Gem, true, they are not as wonderful as I remember them, but they are a fun read. Books are like movies, you have artsy and you have popcorn. D&D fiction, including Conan and most pulp writers, are popcorn. Yeah, people consume popcorn way more than they consume art. I dont crave art in my D&D fiction, I crave popcorn.

But then I crave artsy, A Danse with Dragons, or the Name of the Wind.

Discuss ;)
 
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Hate leads to the darkside...

Now, to the real topic of discussion,

Im now re-reading Crystal Shard, Streams of Silver, Halflings Gem, true, they are not as wonderful as I remember them, but they are a fun read. Books are like movies, you have artsy and you have popcorn. D&D fiction, including Conan and most pulp writers, are popcorn. Yeah, people consume popcorn way more than they consume art. I dont crave art in my D&D fiction, I crave popcorn.

But then I crave artsy, A Danse with Dragons, or the Name of the Wind.

Discuss ;)

D&D fiction may be ''popcorn'', but does all of it have to? I mean, D&D is so wide and it has space for ''artsy'' stories and ''popcorn'' stories. I think that FR has had compelling books (I like Elaine Cunningham's work, for example), WotC should hire more authors than just three, and give them -and the IP- the possibility to shine (from an artisitic PoV as well). They should stop dictating where stories can be set, which character can be used, and even the outcome of the books (yes, WotC often decides what authors have to write, at times even order them to write stories for the sole purpose of implementing a design change), and leave writers more room and freedom to tell the stories that they want to. Seriously, being told ''you have to write X'' surely doesn't improve the quality of the work, and it doesn't help with inspiration or involvement.

If they don't do anything to promote thier IP in that direction, if they only want popcorn books to be written, with the same characters over and over, it's no wonder that you get popcorn fiction. It's no wonder that many people look down at D&D books as ''second class/uncompelling fantasy''.
 

Well I read CC I and II, and yesterday I finished listening to CC III: Vengeance of the Iron Dwarf.

I really didn't like CC 0: The Companions (I know many people did!).
I really liked CC I.
I liked CC II.
I didn't like CC III.

Hm... This leaves me a bit confused.

When I started to prepare for a 5E Realms game, I thought it would be a good start to read the Sundering Series (including CC 0). I could enjoy The Herald and The Sentinel, but haven't tried the remaining three. With OotA on the horizon I read Homeland, Exile and Sojourn again. I really liked the first one, liked the second one and ... well, read the third one. It was almost the same about 15 years ago. Perhaps I just don't like every Salvatore book as much as I like the other, but yeah in general I like fantastic popcorn literature.

CC III was just too much battle. There wasn't much room for interesting descriptions and we just saw the surface of most of the characters.
Although I will read Archmage sooner or later, at the moment I am not that thrilled to do so.
 

When I started to prepare for a 5E Realms game, I thought it would be a good start to read the Sundering Series

Heh, those books didn't do a good job in covering the Sundering changes. They were a ''snapshot'' of the world during the event, but the vast majority of changes was not included in those books, and some info have been slowly trickling down during the last two years. SCAG should have a complete overview, though.
 

Yeah, I wasn't overwhelmed by the information on the 5E Realms in the Sundering Series. And so I am really looking forward to the SCAG!
 

No, it doesn't, but everyone who hates Drizzt will be much happier if he's dead. ;)

Cheers!

I hate Drizzle Do'schnizzle and I don't mind if the series finally ends with him alive and kicking (yes, kicking with that special kick he work out when his two scimitars are in that certain position...).

But I think every dwarf Salvatore has ever written - you know, the brain-damaged short race with speech impediments (the fantasy equivalent of gungans) - should be butchered in a graphic novel specially commissioned for the occasion. I would actually pay for that.

Bring back Paul Kemp, Elaine Cunningham, and Rich Baker.
 

I have read and reread so many of the Conan stories and I will likely read more of them in the future... Actually, I might look into ebooks so that I can carry them around on my phone.

REH is no longer copyright in Oz so the Oz page for Project Guttenburg has the Conan novels for free and legal download.
 

I am half way through Vengeance and so far it has been a rollicking tale of adventure (once I got past introducing the new Bruenor Battlehammer, same as the old Bruenor Battlehammer - welcome to the Forgotten Realms lads).

Good old boy Dwarves, Drow scheming and ineffective Giants being cut down, good stuff.
 

I like Drizzt books. They are not good books and I don't expect them to be when I start reading them, but nevertheless I enjoy them. Perhaps is that I love dwarves and there very few books which portray dwarves characters, or perhaps is that there is no much thinking involved reading those books and I can go through them fast and without paying much attention.

One thing I like is that Drizzt himself is not the center of the story like he used to be. There are many small characters around moving the story one way or another (specially dwarves).

I think we need more and different FR books. Now we got only Elminster and Drizzt books. I've never read an Elminster book so I don't know if they're worth it or not.

What about a new series with new heroes? I want a new dwarf who is not Bruenor. Or a story that is not in the North.

I have read and reread so many of the Conan stories and I will likely read more of them in the future... Actually, I might look into ebooks so that I can carry them around on my phone.

Conan stories are AWESOME. The ebook version of "The Complete Conan Saga" is one of the books I keep constantly on my iPad and iPhone.
 

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