[King Arthur] These pictures look reeeally cool!

[kkoie]

Well, one thing that is definately not in this films favor is Jerry Bruckheimer. Rarely has this crackpot created anything that was watchable or even worth a darn.

 

[John Crichton]

Well, one thing that is definately not in this films favor is Jerry Bruckheimer. Rarely has this crackpot created anything that was watchable or even worth a darn.

I disagree.

Taken from here: http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56247&page=2&pp=25

Given Bruckheimer's history of films he's produced, oh heck, lets go to IMDB for a second -

National Treasure (2004) (pre-production) (producer)
King Arthur (2004) (filming) (producer)
Veronica Guerin (2003) (completed) (producer)
"Cold Case" (2003) TV Series (producer)
"Fearless" (2003) TV Series (co-producer) (executive producer)
Skin (2003) (TV) (executive producer)
Bad Boys II (2003) (producer)
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) (producer)
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (2003) (VG) (executive producer)
"Profiles from the Front Line" (2003) TV Series (executive producer)
Kangaroo Jack (2003) (producer)
"Amazing Race 3, The" (2002) TV Series (executive producer)
"Without a Trace" (2002) TV Series (executive producer)
"C.S.I.: Miami" (2002) TV Series (executive producer)
Bad Company (2002) (producer)
... aka Ceská spojka (2002) (Czech Republic)
"Amazing Race 2, The" (2002) TV Series (executive producer)
Black Hawk Down (2001) (producer)
"Amazing Race, The" (2001) TV Series (executive producer)
Pearl Harbor (2001) (producer)
... aka Pearl Harbour (2001) (UK: promotional title)
"C.S.I.: Crime Scene Investigation" (2000) TV Series (executive producer)
... aka "C.S.I." (2000) (USA: short title)
Remember the Titans (2000) (producer)
Coyote Ugly (2000) (producer)
Gone in Sixty Seconds (2000) (producer)
Swing Vote (1999) (TV) (executive producer)
... aka Ninth Justice, The (1999) (TV) (Australia: video title)
Max Q (1998) (TV) (executive producer)
... aka Max Q: Emergency Landing (1998) (TV) (USA)
Enemy of the State (1998) (producer)
Armageddon (1998) (producer)
"Soldier of Fortune, Inc." (1997) TV Series (executive producer)
... aka "S.O.F. Special Ops Force" (1997) (USA: second season title)
... aka "S.O.F., Inc." (1997)
... aka "SOF, Inc." (1997)
Con Air (1997) (producer)
Rock, The (1996) (producer)
Dangerous Minds (1995) (producer)
Crimson Tide (1995) (producer)
Bad Boys (1995) (producer)
Ref, The (1994) (executive producer)
... aka Hostile Hostages (1994)
Days of Thunder (1990) (producer)
Beverly Hills Cop II (1987) (producer)
Top Gun (1986) (producer)
Thief of Hearts (1984) (producer)
Beverly Hills Cop (1984) (producer)
Flashdance (1983) (producer)
Young Doctors in Love (1982) (producer)
Cat People (1982) (executive producer)
Thief (1981) (producer)
... aka Violent Streets (1981)
Defiance (1980) (producer)
American Gigolo (1980) (producer)

I look at that list and I see some damn fine and entertaining films there. I also see some real stinkers, but the good stuff outnumbers the crap, IMO. Also, he is a producer and not a director. Sure, he's known as the guy 'Mike Bay and all that direct like him' always work with but there is no reason to believe that this man cannot do what has been set out in that press release. He'll have the budget and he'll probably get the big talent needed to pull it off. What actor wouldn't want to do a movie like this? These things are huge vehicles for current and future stars.

The star-factor aside, Micheal Bay is not directing this film, nor should he be if Bruckheimer wants a serious take on it. Bay makes fun/action packed movies that are over-the-top. I happen to be a big Bay fan (okay, except for Pearl Harbor, that flick stank).

Putting it lightly, Bruckheimer is one of the most influencial and successful producers in Hollywood. I'd rather have him than Joel Silver (who used to be one of my favorite producers until about 4 years ago) on board for this type of movie. Different strokes and all that apply of course.

 

[Sirius_Black]

Well, one thing that is definately not in this films favor is Jerry Bruckheimer. Rarely has this crackpot created anything that was watchable or even worth a darn.

Black Hawk Down and Pirates of the Carribbean immediately spring to mind as counter points to your statement.

 

[Elf Witch]

If this is set during the waning of the Roman Empire, then yes; they would use armor. Not full-plate, certainly, but definitely some kind of mail. Remember that Romanized Britons were every bit as civilized and technologically advanced as Roman Italians.

There area few occurances of Brtish warrior women (Bodicea comes to mind) but by and large this idea is ridiculous. Guinivere would most certainly not wield a bow in battle, or the history books would have remembered it.

I'll just skip this one and wait for Troy... or... something.

The history books don't really tell us a lot about Arthur most of it is legend so how would the history books know if Guinivere actually used a bow or not? And which Guinivere there is several woman named that asociated with Arthur.

I just don't understand people who say they won't see a film about Arthur unless it is historically accurate. Do you take the same stance on Merlin or do you believe that there was a powerful wizard living back then? Most of the Arthurian mythos is pure fantasy and legend and you know what I like that. And I also like when they try new things with the legend otherwise they would be just telling the same old tired story over and over again.

The main reason I go to the movies is to be entertained if I want pure history I will read a book. Ut is 2003 a lot of woman would like to see a movie where the woman do more than sit at home have babies and wave the men off to war while causing the downfall of Camelot because they can't keep their hands of a hunky knight.

 

[Skade]

If this is set during the waning of the Roman Empire, then yes; they would use armor. Not full-plate, certainly, but definitely some kind of mail. Remember that Romanized Britons were every bit as civilized and technologically advanced as Roman Italians.

I rather assumed from the blue war paint that Guinevere might not be as Romanized as might be. Not all of Britain became Romanized, I thought. There were some tribes and areas that simply evaded the invasion, or were remote enough to not be as affected.

 

[Desdichado]

This movie will probably be better than "First Knight"; it will have little problem being better than "Camelot" or "The Mists of Avalon" (the movie here, although the book is not that much better). I wish that the movie could be as good as Bernard Cornwell's or Mary Stewart's books, but I hold out little hope.

Mmmmm, the Warlord Trilogy. Yes, this has little chance of being as good as that.

 

[Wombat]

Black Hawk Down and Pirates of the Carribbean immediately spring to mind as counter points to your statement.

I'll give you PotC.

Other than that, looking over the list, not a single one that I watched and liked.

I have less and less good feelings about this film.

Oh, and I remembered -- there have been two good Arthurian films.

Monty Python & the Holy Grail

The Fisher King

Other than that, I weep over the lot.

(edited bit)

Oh, and neither Celts (of the era) nor Picts were noted for their bows. Javelins, yes; slings, yes. Bows, definitely not.

Of course the Welsh alter that, but the first we really hear of Welsh bowmen is, I believe, the late 11th century. I am, however, quite willing to be corrected on this point.

 

[Klaus]

Note that Guinevere is using a composite short bow in a style that was developed in the Middle East circa 900 BC.

From those pictures, Guinevere looks like a Celt princess or leader of sorts. Arthur looks romanised, with the armor and barding. He probably marries her in an attempt of keeping pagan and christian groups together.

And according to the synopsys, Merlin is a druid in this version (which is fine by me).

 

[John Crichton]

Short IGN.com interview with Clive Owen -

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/455/455701p1.html

 

[Welverin]

This is only speculation, of course, but I assume this movie will portray Guinevere as a Celt princess, marrying Arthur in an attempt to bring the different peoples of Britannia together after the fall of the roman occupation.

But the Avatar is the one who brings the people of Britannia together!