Lamentation of Lolth - OoC VIII

[kirinke]

Illmater may be the god of suffering, but does the clergy revel in it? I don't believe so. To her it seems to be a bit decadant and wierd, therefore suspicious. From what I understand, his clerics are very unassuming. They may suffer for specific causes, but they don't seek it out and dance for joy about it.

 

[hippocrachus]

Actually, the clergy of Ilmater do revel in it. They worship martyrdom above all.
Unless Teleri is a xenophobe, like Calenthang is becoming, the decadent and weird practices of different cultures aren't really wise reasons for her to be suspicious of them. I'd hope our resident, good-natured cleric would be a bit more open-minded...

 

[kirinke]

Majin? Would Teleri know the basics of the Illmater religion?
+3 Knowledge religion.

Teleri is open minded, but the idea of parading a dead body around like a trophy gives her a major case of the heebie jeebies. Remember, Sehanine's clergy does administer funeral rights and guard the remains of the fallen amongst other things (almost direct quote there as a matter of fact). So I'd think she'd be very offended by that sort of parade as it shows a kind of disrespect to the dead and the spirit of the fallen.

And that's pretty much what I've been basing it off on, her own personal feelings. Remember, however good natured and open minded she is, she tends to be lead by her heart and impulses. And her first impulse on the parade thing is Ewww! Major badness there!

 

[hippocrachus]

Just making sure I understand your reasoning's foundations before I resign myself to letting Calenthang actually agree with Teleri
I wouldn't want Teleri's reputation marred by being pigeonholed in the same mindset as the only-person-to-make-Broddy-cry's without good cause...

 

[kirinke]

No problems there. Even people who disagree on most things usually have a few things they agree on. I suspect that goes for slightly crazy she-elves as well as xenophobic making gnome's cry elves.

 

[Majin]

Kirinke - Ilmater is an incredibly well known god in the Realms. Many a commoner knows a lot about this god and I'd figure most any priestess that trains and studies for years is most any religion would have studied the most prevalent other religions out there. Basically, it'd have to be a hermetic society, Teleri's religion, to not have a clue who Ilmater was

Let's also make sure that Teleri's feelings are indeed Teleri's feelings and not Kirinke's. We've had issue with that before if you remember. Just be careful

 

[kirinke]

Heh. Gotcha. But this is really based off of her feelings and training, because I am going by the dogma part of her religion as stated in the forgotten realms faith's and patheon's rulebook. From what I've read, she would be seriously offended that Chasitity's body was not properly buried or laid out in a manner fitting for a paladin.

 

[Wilphe]

Alrighty. Well, I just put up the Diplomancy check, because I didn't have any ranks in sense motive or gather information. About the only thing that might work is a Wisdom bonus to those checks. I dunno.... You're da boss.

ARGGGH!

I knew I should have gone with her...

 

[kirinke]

Don't worry, this is just an initial trip. She's just trying to establish a rapport if nothing else and checking to see if something seems off. Once she gets back with you guys, she'll send in Laurete. For the moment, she is trying to appear as a relatively harmless and somewhat naive priestess, which isn't such an act, considering her youth. That way, she can gain Andress' trust and if the good lady is up to something, Teleri will have a better chance at ferreting it out. And if you think about it, she is perfect for that particular job.

 

[Wilphe]

ooc:
Do you know which goddess was called the Lady of Pain or the Willing whip as one of her monikers? Teleri is suspecting that the priestess is either knowingly or unknowingly serving either her or Shar. I mean, lookit the evidence. A priestess who seems to revel in suffering (the servants of Illmater don't as a rule revel in pain or torture, but will willing undergo such if the cause is good and or will result in something good.)

Loviatar is "Maiden of Pain" and "The Willing Whip"
And causing other people to suffe and reveling in it is her forte

Shar's titles are "Lady of Loss", "Mistress of the Night" & "Dark Goddess"
More likely to regard suffering as a means to an end rather than an end in itself