"Levelless" d20?

[kengar]

I had seen this mentioned on the WOTC board but never heard of it before. Is this from someone's House Rules or is it an actual Rules Variant? Sounds interesting.

 

[Crothian]

So far, house rules only. I've seen some attempt at this, but all have fallen quiote sort on quality.

 

[Psion]

I've seen a PDF called dliberation20 which was pretty tepid and over complicated.

Mutants & Masterminds is almost levelless d20... but I wouldn't play the "truly levelless" variant.

 

[BiggusGeekus@Work]

I dunno. When you're modifing the rules that much, I'd suggest just looking at a new game like RuneQuest or Pendragon.

 

[kengar]

I dunno. When you're modifing the rules that much, I'd suggest just looking at a new game like RuneQuest or Pendragon.

That's more or less what I was thinking, but the reference I read got me curious.

 

[Judas]

There's a d20 game out there, Mutants & Masterminds. Classless, leveless, No alignments, no hit dice, and use no other dice than the D20. Looks pretty good as I perused the book a few times.

Here's a quick snip of an interview about the game:

So in Mutants & Masterminds instead of rolling X dice of damage, each attack has a "damage bonus" that the target of the attack makes a saving throw against. The result of the saving throw determines what kind of damage they take: a successful save means no damage, while a failed save means they're hurt. How much depends on how badly they failed the saving throw. A really low save (or a really high damage bonus) can result in an instant knockout.

An added benefit is that you only need a single d20 to play Mutants & Masterminds because everything, from attack and damage rolls to skill and power checks, uses the same basic system.

 

[nHammer]

The cover has "Worlds Greatest Superhero RPG" on the cover?...Somebody thinks highly of themselves
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Actually, I think it's more of a nod to Fantastic Four...but still..

 

[Henry]

moved to d20 systems games.

 

[Mistwell]

I know of a pretty good .pdf file on converting d20 Modern to be a classless, level-less system. If anyone is interested, here is the contact info to get it (for free of course):

"Anyone who is interested in getting a copy of my point-based classless system can drop me a line at ialdabaoth@cableone.net and I will send you a copy. It is still essentially a beta version, but is quite complete and probably won't change much before the 1.0, except for added material.

Feedback on the system is very much appreciated.

-Leroy Van Camp III"

 

[Voneth]

The cover has "Worlds Greatest Superhero RPG" on the cover?...Somebody thinks highly of themselves
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Actually, I think it's more of a nod to Fantastic Four...but still..

From the review of the game at gamewyrd.com

"The World’s Greatest Superhero RPG!" – so announces the front of Green Ronin’s Mutants & Masterminds.

Brave words.

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"The World’s Greatest Superhero RPG!" – that’s what it says on the front cover. The front cover is probably right.