Lightning Initiative

[Hannibal Barca]

Is the reflex save requirement of +6 for Lightning Initiative a base save of +6, or does it include dexterity modifiers? The description in the Quintessential Fighter Handbook does not indicate that it is a base save. Is this in fact correct?


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[Kershek]

I would assume it's your base save. The Toughness feats (such as Dwarf's Toughness) in Masters of the Wild state base save.

 

[AGGEMAM]

Is the reflex save requirement of +6 for Lightning Initiative a base save of +6, or does it include dexterity modifiers? The description in the Quintessential Fighter Handbook does not indicate that it is a base save. Is this in fact correct?

It should be base save, however only an ignorant DM would allow it the first place IMHO.

 

[hammymchamham]

what is lightning reflexes from?

 

[AGGEMAM]

what is lightning reflexes from?

The Quintessential Fighter Handbook, which should be banned from any game because it is upper-munchinistic rubbish.

 

[hammymchamham]

The Quintessential Fighter Handbook, which should be banned from any game because it is upper-munchinistic rubbish.

ahhhh, thanks. I'll keep my gaurd up

 

[Malin Genie]

From what I have seen of the Quintessential series, while they have some good ideas, they are very much 'power up' books written by people who have a better sense of cool than balance.

 

[Crothian]

It's a feat that gives an additional +4 to initiative. There are worse feats in the PHB. Now if one house rules that initiative is rolled every round then maybe it becomes a little better, but it is not game breaker.

 

[AGGEMAM]

It's a feat that gives an additional +4 to initiative. There are worse feats in the PHB. Now if one house rules that initiative is rolled every round then maybe it becomes a little better, but it is not game breaker.

No, but the is an Epic Feat that does the same and you'd have to be at least 21st level to take that.

 

[Crothian]

No, but the is an Epic Feat that does the same and you'd have to be at least 21st level to take that.

There are some epic feats that shouldn't be epic feats. Also, QF was out before ELH so it's not like any of the epic stuff was even defined at the time.