Thanks Suldulin!
No problem Tanager feel free to ask me anything about Poser. Not that iam an expert at it or anything like that.
Now Kilmore! Believe me I have heard a lot of people putting down other people poser work. I my self NEVER EVER put down art work no matter what. If I don't have nothing nice to say I just don't say anything!
Not that u have said anything bad. I have seen ur post in other's work here and for the most part they are helpful comments but sometimes it seems to me as ur mocking them.
But I have been seen a lot of people getting heat from other Artist about their Poser work somehow not been art.
I agree I have seen a lot of Poser work which just show u what Poser can do and Not what they could do with Poser.
But for the most part that's a whole lot of crap.
A couple of month ago. I was standing up for someone who was getting ripped by another artist and another artist by the name of
http://blackhearted.deviantart.com/ said something that I think say it all.
"you know why people dislike poser?
Because they're threatened by it...
All of a sudden all of these 'great artists' who work in traditional mediums are having some of their limelight stolen by people who work in 3D, and mainly poser. They think all poser art is somehow 'easier' and requires much less talent than 'real' artwork.
Its a LOT harder posing a poser figure, and lighting a poser scene, than it is a photograph. That's speaking nothing of actually texturing the characters and environment yourself - that brings the workload to more than that of an average painting.
like i said, its just fear... fear that the art world is opening up to so many new people with programs like poser. and poser does do that - it bridges the gap, and allows people who aren't that great at some aspects of painting to create solid works. i have friends who were creative geniuses - they had such wicked imaginations, but try as they might they just couldn't get their anatomy right, or their perspective, lighting, whatever. A program also allows people to focus on their strengths without getting bogged down with their weaknesses.
honestly, when i paint an oil painting (as do most people), i usually go by either a live model or a photo reference - whether its one taken for the image, or an old photograph or a magazine clipping. few people actually paint images directly from their imaginations.... so why does painting with a poser figure as a reference instead of a photo automatically exclude you from the world of 'real artists'? Not everyone can afford or have access to a suitable live model and photographic equipment, or the proper environment to a scene.
i think poser is great. i also think that, given the opportunity, any artist would jump at a chance to use any type of medium to their advantage. you think that Leonardo DaVinci would have hesitated to fire up his PC and render some images with Victoria if he had the chance? The man was a revolutionary artist - experimenting with everything from artistic mediums to the physics of flight and military engineering. im sure he would use every tool available to him, even if it were only to help visualize a canvas.
...and this is where the other end of the spectrum - the 'poser purists', piss me off. wtf? I constantly have people flaming my poser images that ive post-edited or painted over in Photoshop, saying that they're somehow 'cheating' - that its not a poser render and doesn't belong in a poser gallery. that I have 'no right' to be posting them there. Lol.
its a pretty 
ed up world out there. people will always bitch about something, you can never please anyone, so don't even bother trying. just do your own thing and ignore all the angst-ridden little prepubescent punks who will try all they can to push your buttons... if you ignore them they'll go back under their little bridges. "
To make a point even thought ur hand skill's could never be duplicated (atleast not yet). Which by the way poser has a sketch render option not that many use but is there.Even if 20 years from now they are able to duplicate hand skill.
There's one thing I know one will ever be able to duplicate and that's ur imagination which is what makes an artist an artist. So what iam saying is it doesn't matter how ur work looks just that ur creating an image that means something to you.
Iam glad my work could make u change ur opinion on Poser artist. They are hundreds of artist out there doing outstanding poser work. Check this site there are hundreds of poser PIC which I think u would agree are just awesome images.
http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?Sectionid=1
If u really want to check out an expert poser user check this guys out. Iam pretty sure u wont find one thing wrong with any of his images.
http://www.toxicangel.com/list_gallery.php?action=list&from=0&criteria=license
So to end this THERE"S NEW ART IN OUR FUTURE. DIGITAL GET USED TO IT.
