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lowkey13
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Eh ....
Palace of the Silver Princess: 1981 release, written in 1980.
Mazes and Monsters (book): 1981, after B3
Mazes and Monsters (movie): 1982
Pulling: founded BADD in 1982, didn't rise to prominence until 1983-84.
Jack Chick's first tract: 1984
60 Minutes: 1985
So no, the Satanic Panic certainly wasn't the issue. IMO, and based on my exceedingly faulty memory.
Yeah, no. It wasn't widespread until the end of 1981 - at the earliest.
And "satanic panic" wasn't the issue with B3.
Um, except that isn't what happened. It wasn't obscure in the late 70s. It wasn't popular because of that.
And also, that wasn't "all over the news." Seriously.
Whatever. Correlation, causation, and all that. Let's see how it works:
"D&D became popular because of the 70s revival of Tolkien. And Led Zeppelin. People totally started playing D&D because they needed to get the Led out. All that glitter is gold, and my halfling thief will totes steal it ...
It might be reasonable, except THAT ISN'T WHAT HAPPENED. You can either make up reasons that the people themselves AREN'T STATING, or you can see that they have said, alterately, that it is "because of the sexy" (although that is disputed because the artists say it was par for the course) "because of the caricatures (although no one seems to know who was caricatured) or "because of the BDSM" (which is total BS).
Or perhaps you can note that one (1) early module was written by a woman, the rest of the design team in 1980 revolted, and when Gygax wouldn't hear it, did an end run around him and complained to Blume.
Hmmmm.... go figure, right?
It wasn't that well-known until Mazes & Monsters ...
But still being published, as is as far as I know, and no landfill dumps or recall. At least not then.
besides have you looked at the removed art? The first one, when I saw it many moons ago didn’t even register, and the second didn’t have anything to do with the text, it didn’t require a rewrite, and really, it wasn’t worth dumping them, inmho.
also didn’t it go out with a half naked horse lady on the inside cover? I mean cmon.
It is what happened. We have the time line. We have the news reports. And we have the people directly involved saying it's what happened. We have Tim Kask saying that's what helped launch TSRs sales numbers (the Egbert incident). We have the people who actually worked on the module saying "They didn’t want anything that could be seen as or interpreted as in bad taste. They didn’t want anything that could be held up on a TV screen with someone saying, "Parents of America! Look at what your children are reading and playing!" An illustration like that was not going to fly. "
To say it didn't happen means we must ignore the timeline, ignore all of the media reports, and ignore the people who were actually there experiencing it. So yeah, they are in fact stating it themselves. Not just Heyndrx (who worked on the module), but Tim Kask as well.