Lost - 4/25/07 "D.O.C." (spoilers)

[Bront]

I think yes, more Others have been killed than castaways.

DOn't forget Eko killed two when he was being dragged into the jungle, and Jack, Sawyer, Kate & Company killed at least one, maybe two on their way to the dock at the end of the second season, when Michael was leading them back to be captured.

I don't think Desmond (or most of the Lostaways) are aware of that though.

I think Desmond got a pass at being an other with his reaction to the whole hatch thing.

 

[Bront]

No, I did not say that--I merely threw the idea out there as a "what if" possibility. But your "easier" explanation that Mikhael faked his own death isn't easy by a long shot. Tell me, how did Mikhael manage to fake frothing at the mouth and bleeding from his ear if he had his hands tied behind his back? Kinda hard to slip some sort of capsule in your mouth or maybe slide a razor across your scalp with your hands tied behind your back.

I'm guessing that you meant that Mikhael knew there'd be a reaction when he passed through the electronic barrier and that it'd hurt but he'd ultimately survive. But even this explanation is far from simple. When he got zapped, Mikhael was thrown a decent ways into the barracks side of the fence. What was to keep Sayid or one of the others from examining him to make sure he was dead? Who's to say that they didn't examine him, and we just weren't shown that on the show?

I guess what I'm saying is that a fence that zaps people to the point that they look dead but that also depends upon other people not examining the zapped victim is complicated--not simple--and doesn't seem like such a great security system IMO.

Another options is that the healing effect of the island brought him back from the brink of death.

Of course, I have to wonder about Boone dying early if the healing effects of the island are so good.

 

[Gab]

Another options is that the healing effect of the island brought him back from the brink of death.

Of course, I have to wonder about Boone dying early if the healing effects of the island are so good.

Or about the two that were buried alive a few episodes back... is the Island keeping them alive? :\

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

I think One Eyed mike just faked it. Or the fence knocks people out but does not kill them. I don't think the island bring back anyone from the dead. Indeed, it seems to kill people deliberately, though the monster.

 

[Mark CMG]

I forget. Was it Juliette that "pronounced" Mikael dead and did Kate not check him herself?

 

[Fast Learner]

Juliette wasn't with them. It was Locke, Sayid, Kate, and Rousseau.

 

[John Crichton]

I forget. Was it Juliette that "pronounced" Mikael dead and did Kate not check him herself?

Nope, as FL said, she wasn't there. I believe it was Locke who called the ToD.

 

[Bront]

Nope, as FL said, she wasn't there. I believe it was Locke who called the ToD.

He simply could be bad at finding a pulse though. I think he said he wasn't breathing, and didn't check for one.

 

[John Crichton]

He simply could be bad at finding a pulse though. I think he said he wasn't breathing, and didn't check for one.

I agree on the bad pulse finding but I believe he did check for one. :: shrugs ::

 

[Mark CMG]

Oops. Yup. I was mixing that up with the seond time we were shown the fence. And as I now recall, I believe it was Locke.