Lost Monsters

[frankthedm]

Brawny/Claw monster = Grey renderis the assumption i worked off of. I like the concept more than the final art myself.

The Silt horrors are still MIA, the folks converting athas might have a version though.

 

[Exquisite Dead Guy]

Fallen Hound Archon (Fiend Folio; WOTC said this will never appear)

Did they say why not?

 

[Shade]

Is'nt the Ghaur a type of Tanar'ri linked to Baphomet?

They appear in at least two different FR books, I think 'Monsters of Faerun' and 'Lost Empires of Faerun'.

Close...it's ghour. That was my first reaction, except it was listed as an aberration. Then I thought they'd meant gauth, but that was listed separately. Perhaps they toyed with another new type of beholder?

 

[Shade]

Did they say why not?

I forget which designers said it, but essentially they decided that a fallen celestial simply becomes a fiend of another type (like a fallen solar becoming a balor or pit fiend).

 

[Nyaricus]

Now what I want to know is where the firearms for FR went, and the tinker gnomes for 3e

Lockwood, you are a sinner *and* a saint

 

[Shemeska]

Close...it's ghour. That was my first reaction, except it was listed as an aberration. Then I thought they'd meant gauth, but that was listed separately. Perhaps they toyed with another new type of beholder?

Wierdness abounds

I forget which designers said it, but essentially they decided that a fallen celestial simply becomes a fiend of another type (like a fallen solar becoming a balor or pit fiend).

Well that's wonky... really there's some nice precident for fallen celestials retaining some or all of their prior form rather than turning into fiends. Some have become fiends yes, but that seems to be an intentional transformation on their part, like in Baalzebuls case, not something incidental.

There's that fallen Trumpet Archon who rules a city in one of the lower planes who retains his former shape, there's Zalatian XXIII who fell in 2e and who showed up fallen in 3e (I'll have to see what they listed him as there), there's a fallen solar that features in 'Squaring the Circle', etc. None of them transformed into fiends, and for some of the fiend types it's not possible to transform into them unless you start out as one of them (I don't see fallen Guardinals becoming Yugoloths or Demodands/Gehreleths).

 

[blargney the second]

Brawny (Claw) Monster (MM 3.0 concept art)

Tack another pair of arms on that dude, and he's definitely looking like an Abyssal Eviscerator:

 

[Dragonbait]

[*]Deeplost (Races of Stone)[SOLVED: It became Craa'ghoran Giant in MMIV]

Was this supposed to be some kind of twisted elemental-undead dwarf originally? It does not scream "Giant," just weird.
I like that.

 

[sckeener]

Well that's wonky... really there's some nice precident for fallen celestials retaining some or all of their prior form rather than turning into fiends. Some have become fiends yes, but that seems to be an intentional transformation on their part, like in Baalzebuls case, not something incidental.

There's that fallen Trumpet Archon who rules a city in one of the lower planes who retains his former shape, there's Zalatian XXIII who fell in 2e and who showed up fallen in 3e (I'll have to see what they listed him as there), there's a fallen solar that features in 'Squaring the Circle', etc. None of them transformed into fiends, and for some of the fiend types it's not possible to transform into them unless you start out as one of them (I don't see fallen Guardinals becoming Yugoloths or Demodands/Gehreleths).

and there is the fallen Hound Archon on WotC's site...
Thah Rahalar: Male hound archon/divine minion of Set

 

[Shade]

Was this supposed to be some kind of twisted elemental-undead dwarf originally? It does not scream "Giant," just weird.
I like that.

I had assumed it was a template for creatures that became lost for too long in the Underdark, but we may never know.