LOTR logic question

I seem to remember it being said in the books that the only reason Sam and Frodo are successful is because Sauron thinks the ring is being taken to Gondor to be used against him. If he'd known the quest was to destroy the ring, he'd have sealed up Mordor and Sam and Frodo would never have had a chance to get to Mt. Doom.

In my view, I think flying the ring into Mordor would've been a tipoff to Sauron that they were trying to destroy the ring and he'd never have let them get anywhere near Mt. Doom.


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"Aha! They bring the ring to use against me... Foolish mortals. So, what great warriors have they chosen this time to bring against me?"

*deadpan* "What do you mean they're sending hobbits?"

*outraged* "What is it with grubby hobbit fingers and my ring!? It is the ONE RING! Why can't a powerful figure lose themself to it for once? I'm tired of trying to corrupt half-pints."

"That's it! It's got pipe weed stains on it! I've had it with haflings! Scour the shire!"
 
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Sauron kept close tabs on the movements of his enemies. The eagles flying into Mordor would have caught his interest immediately. The Ring would have been at its strongest, and its influence on the eagle carrying it or the Ringbearer would have been overwhelming to such powerful creatures, as has been noted. So you have Sauron throwing everything he had at the eagles as they flew in, with them struggling to resist the Ring's influence. Not the best way to do it, by far. The same reasoning goes for why a powerful group of great elf warriors carrying the Ring into Mordor wouldn't have been successful either.
 



KenM said:
I never said anything about them using magic, if the eagles did not want sauron to take over there're world and enslave/ kill them, they would have done it willingly.

What makes you think the eagles would have been any more immune to the lure of the ring than anyone else?
 

What makes anyone think the eagles would have done this in the first place? Consider who they work for, and consider how that person is very intent on making sure "higher powers" don't get too directly involved.
 

ColonelHardisson said:
The same reasoning goes for why a powerful group of great elf warriors carrying the Ring into Mordor wouldn't have been successful either.

Pish. I think Elrond was just chicken to leave Rivendell. :D
 

This matter of "What if the eagles just flew the Ring in ..." comes up a couple of times in the commentary on the extended DVD. I think it was Jackson who said that the eagles were their own free race, and had essentially chosen not to be involved at this point. I'd re-check this, but my brother has those DVDs.
 

CrazyMage said:
This matter of "What if the eagles just flew the Ring in ..." comes up a couple of times in the commentary on the extended DVD. I think it was Jackson who said that the eagles were their own free race, and had essentially chosen not to be involved at this point. I'd re-check this, but my brother has those DVDs.

I'd bet they would get involed real fast when the forces of Mordor start killing them.
 

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