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Well, you certainly got the details from me.Wyn A'rienh said:A simple answer is really all I need but the additional details may be useful in my report.

Well, you certainly got the details from me.Wyn A'rienh said:A simple answer is really all I need but the additional details may be useful in my report.
Algolei said:I don't have kids, but I spank other people's kids every chance I get.![]()
Yes, and yes. I will be 36 this year.Wyn A'rienh said:1. Were you spanked as a child?
2. Do you spank your own children?
reanjr said:1. Yes
2. I don't have children, but I intend to beat the crap out of them when they do wrong.
[edit] 24 years old
[edit] Oh, interesting note, a couple of my friends were both spanked as children, but they come up with more creative ways of hurting their child, such as pinching. I find it kind of weird and disturbing, but I suppose it's neither worse nor better than spanking.
die_kluge said:There is absolutely no valid argument for spanking children. There are plenty of valid ways to discipline children, and none of them involve physical or mental abuse.
Not sure I agree with this one - after all, if they were actually incapable of reasoning, there would be no point in trying to teach them anything. They'd never work any of it out to use for themselves. But if you mean that they have a less developed reasoning skill, then that's true.Wulf Ratbane said:1) Children cannot reason.
This one is, as I said, my primary reasoning in favor of spanking: you aren't doing your kids any favors to make them expect that the real world - once you are no longer able to protect them as well - is going to necessarily deal with them in a civilized manner. The punishment the world deals to me, as an adult, for stepping out in front of a bus is very unlikely to be a stern talking-to.Wulf Ratbane said:2) Pain-- serious pain, serious injury-- is a real-life consequence of many behaviors parents should discourage.
If my child reaches for the hot stove, I will smack his hand.
Grounding is abuse - by keeping your children from interacting with their peers, you are stunting their social development. From the most extreme point of view, actually impeding anyone's free expression of will in any way is abuse. And the answer to this is the same answer as the answer to so many other difficult questions - intent. Which is impossible to legislate, since every case has singular details, and will always result in an all day argument, unless we make some grand and unexpected advance in social sciences.die_kluge said:There is absolutely no valid argument for spanking children. There are plenty of valid ways to discipline children, and none of them involve physical or mental abuse.
Come on. Do you have children? My daughter is super smart. She figures stuff out really quickly.Wulf Ratbane said:1) Children cannot reason.