Levistus's_Leviathan
5e Freelancer
I'm sorry, but this is just a mischaracterization of what's going on. A huge false dichotomy. No one is calling fans of Barker's work Nazi-sympathizers for enjoying his books. No one is doing that. The answer to all of those questions is pretty obviously a big "No, of course not, that would be ridiculous".These types of threads are always challenging, and always depressing to find out abhorrent behavior from a cherished contributor. I've never been a fan of Tekumel or Barker, just never got into it at all, even if I knew what it was.
The challenging part is everyone has different lines in the sand. Some seem obvious, some not so much, and nearly everyone has a different thing they consider deal-breaking. It's why I am hesitant to call anyone a Nazi-sympathizer for enjoying the product separate from the person. It may seem that way to me at times, but there is a big slippery slope.
If you're a nazi sympathizer for continuing to enjoy Tekumel as a product, does that also mean..
..you're a racist for enjoying Lovecraft?
..you're anti-trans for enjoying Harry Potter?
..you're pro-child molestation for enjoying Michael Jackson music?
..you're pro-child abuse for enjoying David Eddings books?
..you're a misogynist for enjoying D&D because Gygax invented it?
I suspect only each individual can make that choice, even if I suspect most people, even those who enjoy the works above, do not support any of those abhorrent beliefs.
If you are a Nazi-sympathizer for defending, supporting, and praising Barker after it became public information that he was a Nazi-sympathizer and Holocaust-denier, does that also mean . . .
. . . you're racist for supporting, defending, and praising Lovecraft and his legacy, a blatantly racist man that supported Hitler?
. . . you're transphobic for supporting, defending, and praising Rowling after she made her anti-trans comments online?
. . . you're pro-child molestation for supporting, defending, and praising Michael Jackson and his legacy after it came out that he was a pedophile?
. . . you're a misogynist for supporting, defending, and praising Gygax and his legacy once you learned that he was sexist?
The answer to all of those questions is an absolute "YES!"
Enjoying the product of a horrible person does not make you a horrible person, but defending, supporting, and praising the horrible person after learning how awful they were does make you a horrible person.
You're a Nazi-sympathizer if you support, defend, and praise a Nazi-sympathizer after learning the extent of their awful nature. You're not a Nazi-sympathizer if you enjoy the things produced by the Nazi-sympathizer while acknowledging how awful of a person they were.
That is the dichotomy. It's not "if you like the things they made, you're an awful person", it's "if you continue to support, defend, and praise the person that made those things after learning how bad they were, you're an awful person".
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