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Making fun of D&D

replicant2

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I don't usually get upset anymore about snide remarks and casual insults from the media at large directed at our beloved hobby. I guess what got me about this one was the sheer hypocrisy of the article:

FOX sports fantasy football article

As a some-time fantasy football player, I can say with certainty it is indeed every bit as geeky as D&D.
 

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replicant2 said:
As a some-time fantasy football player, I can say with certainty it is indeed every bit as geeky as D&D.
Then why can't we draw in as many people into D&D as fantasy football? :\

As much I occasionally watch football, I have no interest in playing fantasy football. I can only waste a certain amount of time per week with a bunch of armchair QBs. IOW, I don't mix with jocks.
 

Ranger REG said:
Then why can't we draw in as many people into D&D as fantasy football? :\


No offense to any football fans here, but any moron can sit in front of a TV to watch football. These same people fulfill their dreams by getting involved in Fantasy Football. I've never been involved in Fantasy Football, but how much brain-power does it take compared to D&D?
 

GeoFFields said:
I've never been involved in Fantasy Football, but how much brain-power does it take compared to D&D?
According to the article, it is basically the same as D&D - you move a mini around and use dice to represent how 'good' you just played in a given round.

Not like D&D, indeed. They way the article explains itself, it's very similar (even down to the reasons for playing) - whomever wrote this is an ill-informed ass.
 

Nyaricus said:
According to the article, it is basically the same as D&D - you move a mini around and use dice to represent how 'good' you just played in a given round.

That's actually not how it works. There is no board, no dice, no miniatures, etc. Basically you "draft" a team of real NFL players, and depending on how they do in the real NFL, you get a certain number of points.

For example, a quarterback throws for 300 yards=10 points, and also throws for 2 touchdowns = 12 points, as well as an interception (-2 points) for a total of 20 points. You add that up with the scores of your running backs, wide receivers, kickers, and defense, and that gives you a score.

This score is compared against the opponent's team that week, and whomever has the highest score wins. Records are kept, and the teams with the best records make the playoffs, after which a league champion is crowned.

It's quite geeky in that I've been to many drafts with players in game jerseys, clutching NFL fantasy draft magazines, with lists of obscure players to aid in the late rounds of the draft. During the year players fancy themselves "owners," propose trades, comb the waiver wire for acquisitions, etc. Their teams have names, they trash talk other owners, examine stats, etc. etc.

I don't have a problem with this at all, mind you, but to praise fantasy football while at the same time trashing D&D is disingenuous and ill-informed. The attitude is that of a jock who never grew up trying to point out that his favorite hobby isn't nerdy, when in fact it is.
 

replicant2 said:
I don't have a problem with this at all, mind you, but to praise fantasy football while at the same time trashing D&D is disingenuous and ill-informed. The attitude is that of a jock who never grew up trying to point out that his favorite hobby isn't nerdy, when in fact it is.

At my last job, there was a guy really into the fantasy football stuff, me a few other people I worked with had a DnD game going. The guy into fantasy football said we were geeks, all while he would bring in magaizines, notebooks, computer printouts of his team/ draft choices.
IMO what I think it comes down to is that it is more socailly acceptable to be into sports then tradtional RPG's. I hate this double standard in society. If I get in a fantasy or sci fi costume for a con, I'm labeled a nerd, but if I paint my whole body the colors of my local NFL team and run around the stadium in nothing but speedo shorts, thats ok in most people's eyes?
 

KenM said:
IMO what I think it comes down to is that it is more socailly acceptable to be into sports then tradtional RPG's.

Good point.

I think also that it's much easier for one who doesn't know football or D&D to access football. Learning D&D takes time and applying yourself. Watching football takes sitting on the couch. :)
 


Nyaricus said:
According to the article, it is basically the same as D&D - you move a mini around and use dice to represent how 'good' you just played in a given round.

I think you misread that bit. Just a quote for clarity:

Myth No. 2: Fantasy football is make-believe football, with players made of cardboard cutouts that you move around on a board game based on the roll of a dice.

Truth: Real NFL players make up fantasy football. Instead of, or in addition to, rooting for an NFL team like the Patriots, you root for a specific player such as quarterback Tom Brady. If he throws a touchdown pass, then you get points for his feat.
 


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