Marvel Avengers, 1889 [Full]

Karl Green said:
Ah see I was answering PART of the question, but not what you were asking :D shows me...

I was saying it was legal for you to use all the Trade-off (All-Out Attack, Defensive Attack, Power attack, whatever) BUT you were asking could you use them AFTER the Sense Motive roll was know. You don't have to use them at the start of the round BUT you do have to decide about all modifiers and tradeoffs BEFORE you make your Attack rolls and BEFORE I make any of my ‘reactionary’ rolls (Sense Motive, Toughness, etc… so you can’t Power Attack after I have made my Toughness save, and you can’t decide how much you want to Power Attack after I make a Sense Motive roll).

Sorry for a total misunderstanding on my part.

But the whole point is that Captain Britania is going to Power Attack for more if his Acrobatic Bluff is successful because then he's attacking a surprised Wrecker. This is perfectly legal. I said what I was going to do on my standard action attack based on what happened in the move action Acrobatic Bluff that I used before the attack. If we were in a table-top game, we'd make the rolls sequentially and it could go like this:

"I have Captain Britania Acrobatic Feint Wrecker as a move action"

"I rolled a 16 total, he got a 13. My next attack on him is a surprise attack so I'm going to attack him Power Attack for 5!"

or
"I rolled a 16 total, he got a 20. My next on him isn't a surprise attack so I'm going to attack him and Power Attack for 3."

or "I rolled a 16 total, he got a 20. Well, that didn't fool him so I'm going to attack someone else instead. I'm attacking one of the minions behind Wrecker with a shield throw."
 

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I am not sure how one would know if the feint actually worked until they attacked.

When GMing I am not in the habit of telling the Players my rolls. Karl does, but acting on the info is metagaming yes?
 

hero4hire said:
I am not sure how one would know if the feint actually worked until they attacked.

When GMing I am not in the habit of telling the Players my rolls. Karl does, but acting on the info is metagaming yes?

The first part is definitely an issue- I'm assuming I would know if the feint worked before I attacked, but that might not be a good assumption. I'm not sure how the second part is relevant to us, since I'll declare all of my actions and contingent actions before Karl ever rolls Sense Motive to oppose my Acrobatics check.

But let's get on with the game- for this round, just have me attack for the round as if the Feint didn't work, as that's the "default" option.
 

So...that gatling by me and the Captain, no one trashed it, right? If so, would it be possible for Ronin to operate it? If not, guess I'll just go agitate Dr. Banner :p
 

Necro_Kinder said:
So...that gatling by me and the Captain, no one trashed it, right? If so, would it be possible for Ronin to operate it? If not, guess I'll just go agitate Dr. Banner :p

You can probably operate it, but it's facing the wrong direction. Turning it around might be hard for you. How much does that gun weigh and are there any restraints to moving it?
 

Karl Green said:
Hmm, I like your idea for Movement quite a lot!

I think it is makes much more sense if you have to double-move to go your listed MPH speed. That way, your listed speed is really your long term sustainable movement speed. Right now, your listed speed is half of your long term sustainable movement speed.

One other large benefit of doing it that way is that using that house rule Speed 1 is a very useful power to be able to give a character who is faster than an ordinary human, but can't move at superhuman speed. That's something that is totally missing in the current rules.
 



the_myth said:
If you compare them, these closer ones seem to be 1 square = 10 feet.

It's 1 square= 10 feet. Karl mentioned that he was going to create a new map at 1 square= 10 feet in a post before he created the close map but didn't mention it in the post when he created the first close map.
 

Necro_Kinder said:
So...that gatling by me and the Captain, no one trashed it, right? If so, would it be possible for Ronin to operate it? If not, guess I'll just go agitate Dr. Banner :p

The wiki Gatling Guns site says that it weighs about 90lbs. I am pretty sure that is without the wooden 'mounting/stand', which I would guess is another 90-100lbs. You would have to pick it up and turn it around to get it facing the right direction. I would guess that it would take about a round to do that with your strength.
 

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