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[Paul Farquhar]

It's good when Olivia Coleman is on screen...

 

[Tonguez]

This far in and I'm still on the "it's OK, I guess"

Yeah its still watchable and the story is unfolding in accordance with the spy thriller formula, but theres nothing particularly tense or thrilling in it at all. The writers knew what they wanted and had some great actors but have entirely failed on implementation

 

[Paul Farquhar]

It's been decidedly lacking in the surprising twists that the genre demands so far.

Also, short episodes. This genre typically has episodes of at least 1 hour, possibly 2. It means you can have slow burn and still have meaningful stuff happen every episode.

Who actually wrote this? You need a seriously good writer to pull this off. The direction and cinematography is on the ball, but the writing aint up to snuff.

 

[Tonguez]

Kyle Bradsheet is lead writer, suprising since his credits include Mr Robot

 

[Paul Farquhar]

This is how I think Secret Invasion should go, following the tropes of the British Spy Thriller:

Fury discovers that British Intelligence have been aware of the Skrulls for longer than he has, because they have relations with the Kree going back to the 1960s. With the help of the kree they have developed a bioweapon to target skrulls, but have been refused permission to use it. Gravik was captured by the kree and is being mind controlled to act as an agent provocateur.

Fury frees Gravik from Kree control, and together they rush to prevent Olivia Colman(tm) deploying the bioweapon. Fury shoots Colman, but as she dies she explains that he is too late, the bioweapon has already been deployed. Fury rushes home to hold his dying wife in his arms.

Cut to the Kree homeworld, where the kree agent is reporting the success of his mission. Cut back to Colman's office, where a dying Gravik is searching through the documents. He discovers that British Intelligence have modified the bioweapon to also target kree.

Cut to 10 years later. A Terran spacecraft lands on the decimated Kree homeworld to claim it for the Terran Star Empire.

The End

This is how I think it will go, following the tropes of the MCU:

Angered by the death of her farther, G'iah powers her self up with lots of other superskrull powers. She and Gravik superpower punch each other until Gravik is defeated (at least 40 minutes of this).

Impressed that Talos sacrificed himself to save the President of Earth, humanity welcomes the skrull refugees with open arms.

Cut to Talos' state funeral. After the funeral, Fury digs up the coffin. "You make a really good corpse" he jokes "but I still want to see you do that pot plant!" Together, Fury and Talos walk off into the night.

The End

 

[RangerWickett]

Yeah, if you are going to have a fate of the world thriller where you don't know which characters you can trust and you want that thriller to last six episodes, you need to do groundwork in previous content.

They should have been treating secret invasion as the capstone of phase 4.5, which would use multiple TV shows to set up the cast of characters for this show.

Have some politicians introduced in falcon and Winter soldier, have some other people introduced in Hawkeye, have some folks even be seeded during Miss Marvel.

Don't just start this show and cast five new people to be five important world leaders who all show up for a personal meeting in the age of zoom. It's first of all nonsensical from a world building standpoint, but it's also not anxiety inducing from a narrative standpoint.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

The trouble with that approach is the overlap between people who watch British Spy Thrillers and people who watch the MCU is quite small. Disney were clearly trying to attract a different audience with SI, and so couldn't rely on people being invested from other Marvel shows. And the typical BST is a stand alone series, it doesn't really on pre-established characters, it establishes it's characters within the narrative.

That it has failed in it's aim of being the next Edge of Darkness or The Bodyguard is simply down to the writing not being sharp enough.

Oh, and because it is part of the MCU, we can pretty much rule out a downer ending, which lowers the stakes considerably.

 

[Kaodi]

Surely Talos is dead dead, to contrast with G'iah being fake dead, and so that Maria is not a lone sacrifice.

 

[Tonguez]

Surely Talos is dead dead, to contrast with G'iah being fake dead, and so that Maria is not a lone sacrifice.

no doubt Talos is dead and that will be what convinces Giah to partner with Fury against the superskrulls. Still intrigued on how they are going to handle relocation of the Skrulls to a new Skrull Homeland.

 

[Ryujin]

no doubt Talos is dead and that will be what convinces Giah to partner with Fury against the superskrulls. Still intrigued on how they are going to handle relocation of the Skrulls to a new Skrull Homeland.

Simple.