Otterscrubber
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I'm making a warlord and I was thinking of using throwing axes. I'm confused as to whether or not I can use an attack power with "melee weapon" keyword at range with a thrown weapon?
Melee attacks with thown weapons?
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Mad Hamish
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It depend on the weapon.
If the weapon is located in the simple,martial or superior melee weapons table then yes you can.
Examples are
Javelins, Daggers, Hand-Axes.
If it's only in the missile weapons table (shuriken is the only one that springs to mind) then you can't.
So you're fine to use throwing axes as melee weapons.
If the weapon is located in the simple,martial or superior melee weapons table then yes you can.
Examples are
Javelins, Daggers, Hand-Axes.
If it's only in the missile weapons table (shuriken is the only one that springs to mind) then you can't.
So you're fine to use throwing axes as melee weapons.
Aulirophile
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Everyone is misunderstanding his question. He's basically asking if could use a power that is Melee Weapon at Range because he is wielding a Thrown Weapon. Think MBA with a Handaxe by throwing it.
The answer is no. A power must say "Ranged Weapon" to be usable like that.
Though Warlords have many powers that are Ranged Weapon, so in theory such a build could work. I wouldn't actually go with throwing axes, but I'd pick up a Hungry Greatspear, Dwarven Thrower, Farbond Spellblade, etc (these are magical enchants for various weapon types that grant the weapon the Heavy Thrown property).
The answer is no. A power must say "Ranged Weapon" to be usable like that.
Though Warlords have many powers that are Ranged Weapon, so in theory such a build could work. I wouldn't actually go with throwing axes, but I'd pick up a Hungry Greatspear, Dwarven Thrower, Farbond Spellblade, etc (these are magical enchants for various weapon types that grant the weapon the Heavy Thrown property).
Otterscrubber
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Thanks, that is what I was asking, can i use a melee weapon power at range if my melee weapon can be thrown. Sounds like I cannot, thanks for the feedback.
DracoSuave
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Fundamental misconception of powers #1:
If it says "Ranged weapon" or "Melee weapon", that does not mean 'needs a weapon' (that's covered by the Weapon keyword earlier) but it means that the range of the power is a variable dependant on the weapon.
For "Melee weapon" it means the reach of the weapon, which is your natural reach, plus any modifers the weapon has.
For "Ranged weapon" it means the range of the weapon.
Melee weapons that have a thrown property have both a reach and a range. The reach of the throwing axe is just your natural reach... i.e. adjacent to you. So "Melee weapon" for them generally means Melee 1. For "Ranged weapon" attacks, it means the throwing range of the axe.
Does that make sense?
If it says "Ranged weapon" or "Melee weapon", that does not mean 'needs a weapon' (that's covered by the Weapon keyword earlier) but it means that the range of the power is a variable dependant on the weapon.
For "Melee weapon" it means the reach of the weapon, which is your natural reach, plus any modifers the weapon has.
For "Ranged weapon" it means the range of the weapon.
Melee weapons that have a thrown property have both a reach and a range. The reach of the throwing axe is just your natural reach... i.e. adjacent to you. So "Melee weapon" for them generally means Melee 1. For "Ranged weapon" attacks, it means the throwing range of the axe.
Does that make sense?
Zephrin the Lost
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we're playing it that our dwarf ranger can twin strike with his throwing hammers ranged or melee, because the power allows for both, but cannot use a melee only attack power at range by throwing the hammers, which seems to be the consensus here.
So good for us!
--Z
So good for us!
--Z
DracoSuave
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That is correct, altho do bear in mind that unlike Ranged Basic Attack, the heavy thrown property won't change Twin Strike; when using it with a ranged weapon you still have to use Dexterity for your attack roll.
