Melf's Guide to Greyhawk

D&D General Melf's Guide to Greyhawk Coming From Luke Gygax & WotC


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To me, after watching all the videos of the panels of Dan and Luke at GaryCon, what Dan apologized to Luke over was things like the disclaimers on older D&D projects and the accusations of racism and sexism in the history of OD&D book. Just a shot in the dark, but that was the vibe I got. Regardless of the exact details, I'm glad D&D under Ayoub seems to be leaving that era behind. I'm excited for the future of the game with the franchise model and an embracing of traditional D&D fantasy.
That would be a weird apology since that disclaimer is still in place on all odler products.
 

It's blowing my mind, the enormous leap some here are making that Ayoub is apologizing for WotC's prior statements, disclaimers, and notes in books like "The Making of Original D&D" on the racism and sexism in classic D&D books.

We see what we want to see, I suppose.
I mean, part of the power of apology is that if done well people can read a lot into it.
 





I could not be less interested in a D&D that emphasizes racism and sexism again
I don't think that's what we're seeing. I think we're seeing a return to classic, pulpy, Tolkien/Howard fantasy, and moving away from "you're starting your shift at the campus coffee shop" cozy D&D. (Not a knock on Strixhaven, I really enjoyed running that campaign, but that tone was really starting to influence the rest of the game.)
 

To me, after watching all the videos of the panels of Dan and Luke at GaryCon, what Dan apologized to Luke over was things like the disclaimers on older D&D projects and the accusations of racism and sexism in the history of OD&D book.
lol no.
I don't think that's what we're seeing. I think we're seeing a return to classic, pulpy, Tolkien/Howard fantasy, and moving away from "you're starting your shift at the campus coffee shop" cozy D&D. (Not a knock on Strixhaven, I really enjoyed running that campaign, but that tone was really starting to influence the rest of the game.)
I think you're seeing what you're wanting to see. Given their publication history, the increasingly diverse and young composition of the player base, and the absolute explosion of the romantasy genre, all indications are that WotC will continue to pursue its current strategy of inclusive settings that emphasize roleplay and story.
 

I don't think that's what we're seeing. I think we're seeing a return to classic, pulpy, Tolkien/Howard fantasy
Based on one book that we know basically two things about: a Jeff Easley piece that is said to be a cover illustration and some optional rules in that one book -- not a line-wide readjustment to their brand new core books -- to make the game a bit grittier.

Even if there's been zero misunderstanding about both of those elements and if nothing changes in the production process -- which is extremely common -- what the book contains could be more or less anything.

Remember, TSR published a gazetteer that featured parodies of Fantasy Island and Magnum, PI. Classic tones encompass a lot.

Everything else that's been said about this book is basically a big game of telephone of people who don't like the direction of current D&D coming up with ideas of what this book can be and then taking the really exciting stuff as fact and then further winding themselves up for there.

For all we know, the book is about Melf's chain of coffee shops across Oerth. Just, you know, gritty coffee houses with a Jeff Easley cover.
 

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