Microlite20 : the smallest thing in gaming

[DJCupboard]

While I am a fan of keeping the equipment list as pulled from the srd, the thing to remember about the simplified versions of weapons in terms of what makes a scimitar "worth it" compared to any other similarly classed weapon, is that the answer is, "nothing." It becomes a purely RPing destinction (like whats the difference between any 2 m20 3rd level fighters with 18 str), which I think nicely fits with the theme of the m20 endeavor. However I think the other goal of d20/srd compatability is the better goal to strive for, in this case.

DJC

 

[bytor4232]

I think the simplified weapons list in no way limits the playability. It is definitely not a conversion nightmare- where you might as well play d&d core. But I would suggest using this for the base game and then adding the more detailed weapons rules to the UA supplement.
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I like where your going, however I still have to disagree with you. Microlite20 needs to keep its boundries, and I think this is simply going a little beyond said boundries.

Besides, the core game already has as much crammed into it as we can possibly put in it, and still keep it under two pages. Plus, I can't fit any more information onto the PocketMod version.

if it were up to me, I would keep the system as it is, with Greywulf's modifications for turning and sneak attacks put in. Everything else needs to be in the UA document.

 

[bytor4232]

Oh a lighter note, I present to you the Microlite version of The Tomb of Mighty Madness!. This is the SRD adventures I presented a few days ago, "Microlited". Stats have been updated to support m20.

I didn't include any hooks with this adventure, sorry. I'm sure raiding an undead tomb speaks for itself

 

[MeepoDM]

I agree.

 

[MeepoDM]

Oh a lighter note, I present to you the Microlite version of The Tomb of Mighty Madness!. This is the SRD adventures I presented a few days ago, "Microlited". Stats have been updated to support m20.

I didn't include any hooks with this adventure, sorry. I'm sure raiding an undead tomb speaks for itself

Any room for the EL's to be added to each room? For ease of adding up XP at the end.

 

[Darrell]

I purposely left out magic to keep the base "real world." Folks could do like One-Page Supplements for "non-real" world campaigns (like Shadow Chasers or a home-brew version of Urban Arcana) and such that adds on Races, Magic, and Monsters (notice they where left out also). I think what I'll do is add-on a paragraph on how to incorporate magic-using Occupations. I'm working on a seperate Menances supplement and will add-in monsters from the SRD there.

I really think this is the best way to handle it for m20 Modern. A baseline game that can be used for 'normal' modern roleplaying, and a supplement or two to handle extranormal/paranormal subjects. That way, the game could be used for 'spy' games and such without having to work around a magic/monster aspect in the core game; then, if someone wanted to run a 'DarkMatter'-ish, 'Shadow Chasers'-ish, or some such game, they could add in the supplemental material.

Regards,
Darrell

 

[Sadrik]

I like where your going, however I still have to disagree with you. Microlite20 needs to keep its boundries, and I think this is simply going a little beyond said boundries.

Besides, the core game already has as much crammed into it as we can possibly put in it, and still keep it under two pages. Plus, I can't fit any more information onto the PocketMod version.

if it were up to me, I would keep the system as it is, with Greywulf's modifications for turning and sneak attacks put in. Everything else needs to be in the UA document.

Can I ask then how you and Darrel are dealing with the special rules of weapons?
Some specifics:
exotic weapons namely war axe and bastard sword.
some weapons give bonuses to trip etc.
mighty bows.
There is a lot of minutia there. I think a lot of that could get washed away with the simplified weapon chart. No need to write a specific line into the rules about the rapier exception. It is a light weapon period.

 

[bytor4232]

Any room for the EL's to be added to each room? For ease of adding up XP at the end.

I'll consider it, but thats an aweful lot of math. I really don't like math.

 

[Darrell]

I like where your going, however I still have to disagree with you. Microlite20 needs to keep its boundries, and I think this is simply going a little beyond said boundries.

I kind of hate to agree, because I really like where Sadrik is taking the simplicity of weapons, but I'm going to have to. It is (IMO) too much of a departure from the SRD.

Besides, the core game already has as much crammed into it as we can possibly put in it, and still keep it under two pages. Plus, I can't fit any more information onto the PocketMod version.

if it were up to me, I would keep the system as it is, with Greywulf's modifications for turning and sneak attacks put in. Everything else needs to be in the UA document.

Yeah, I think so. Even though I prefer my own 'Turning,' I think I'm going to go with greywulf's take, simply to keep everything in my game in line with 'core' m20.

Regards,
Darrell

 

[MeepoDM]

I'll consider it, but thats an aweful lot of math. I really don't like math.

I would. Since the core m20 rules only use EL's for XP gain!