Spoilers Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning

[Stalker0]

SPOILERS FOR the new MI movie.



My overall thoughts. Awesome new action scenes, in a day of big CGI battles, just watching Tom Cruise do Tom Cruise things in high action packed scenes is great, and the scenes do not disappoint.

It also did a cool job of referencing the older movies to tie some things together. I also continue to appreciate that in the last couple of movies they have been more willing to insert some humor, not enough to throw off anything but its nice to have a few light heartened moments to cut through the tension.

The biggest "issue" with the movie is that it doesn't feel like a continuation of the last movie to me. In the previous movie, we saw what a terrifying threat the entity is, able to distort the truth, break into comms and impersonate team members, practically an oracle that can often tell the future. Conversely in this movie the entity is mostly a "non-entity", the boogieman in the background rather than actively driving events like it did in the first movie. While there is some lip service to using old tech to try and stop its influence, at the end of the day there are so many things the entity could have been doing to thwart various parties. Its a classic example of a villain that was made too powerful and just had to be nerfed in order to let the good guys win.

 

[aco175]

At this point, I'm not even sure I have seen all of the movies in this franchise.

At what point is it time for a reboot or another origin story like 007.

 

[Necropolitan]

At this point, I'm not even sure I have seen all of the movies in this franchise.

At what point is it time for a reboot or another origin story like 007.

The first movie was a reboot/sequel to the Mission Impossible TV show, which was structured as a 'heist' story where each episode had a variable team of experts being assigned to do a mission their talents meant they were best suited for.

So it'd be easy enough to reboot it/create a spinoff and wouldn't even need to depend on one actor to be the face of the franchise.

 

[chuckdee]

The biggest "issue" with the movie is that it doesn't feel like a continuation of the last movie to me. In the previous movie, we saw what a terrifying threat the entity is, able to distort the truth, break into comms and impersonate team members, practically an oracle that can often tell the future. Conversely in this movie the entity is mostly a "non-entity", the boogieman in the background rather than actively driving events like it did in the first movie. While there is some lip service to using old tech to try and stop its influence, at the end of the day there are so many things the entity could have been doing to thwart various parties. Its a classic example of a villain that was made too powerful and just had to be nerfed in order to let the good guys win.

I didn't see it that way- I saw it as the entity had already put it's plan into motion, and it was a given, if not for the interference of the IMF. Sort of like the way I do a lot of my adventures - I plan for how they will unfold if the players don't intervene, then the players intervene... or not. In the first one, it felt like the entity was unstoppable, honestly. The IMF was behind the eight ball more than is even normal for these movies; it got the same feeling I got in Rogue One and The Empire Strikes Back. This one, even with the outlandishness of the plan, didn't feel hopeless, because they were acting, instead of reacting.

The first movie was a reboot/sequel to the Mission Impossible TV show, which was structured as a 'heist' story where each episode had a variable team of experts being assigned to do a mission their talents meant they were best suited for.

So it'd be easy enough to reboot it/create a spinoff and wouldn't even need to depend on one actor to be the face of the franchise.

It sort of seems like they set it up that way. I know they said in the original cut, Hunt was going to die. They even telegraphed it since he didn't have on the parachute when he boarded the biplane, and Gabriel said I'm the only one with a parachute. He was going to do the upload in the air and land hard. But they might have seen how they are using Wick in the spin-offs, and wanted to leave it open to use Hunt in the same way. They have some interesting characters to build off of- characters that are more proactive than the normal IMF backups.

 

[Necropolitan]

It sort of seems like they set it up that way. I know they said in the original cut, Hunt was going to die. They even telegraphed it since he didn't have on the parachute when he boarded the biplane, and Gabriel said I'm the only one with a parachute. He was going to do the upload in the air and land hard. But they might have seen how they are using Wick in the spin-offs, and wanted to leave it open to use Hunt in the same way. They have some interesting characters to build off of- characters that are more proactive than the normal IMF backups.

It might be worth them trying for an episodic Mission Impossible show.

It's got a standard formula that's proven to be popular, the team's membership changing depending on the mission makes it easier to deal with the schedules of the actors involved, and the changing times allow plenty of new plot ideas that the original show couldn't have done.

 

[Zardnaar]

The first movie was a reboot/sequel to the Mission Impossible TV show, which was structured as a 'heist' story where each episode had a variable team of experts being assigned to do a mission their talents meant they were best suited for.

So it'd be easy enough to reboot it/create a spinoff and wouldn't even need to depend on one actor to be the face of the franchise.

I suspect by now Tom Cruise is the iconic face of MI.

Recastings always iffy for those type of actors.

 

[Necropolitan]

I suspect by now Tom Cruise is the iconic face of MI.

Recastings always iffy for those type of actors.

Tom Cruise was the recast during the move from TV to movie series.

The problem is there aren't really that many better-known young action stars to replace the aging ones.

 

[Stalker0]

Tom Cruise was the recast during the move from TV to movie series.

The problem is there aren't really that many better-known young action stars to replace the aging ones.

Other problem is, who is going to do the stunts like Tom Cruise does?

Part of the crazy appeal of the MI series if your like "holy crap Tom Cruise is ACTUALLY do that thing on screen, its not fake, he's literally hanging on to that airplane!"

Without that, loses a lot of its appeal.

 

[Necropolitan]

Other problem is, who is going to do the stunts like Tom Cruise does?

Part of the crazy appeal of the MI series if your like "holy crap Tom Cruise is ACTUALLY do that thing on screen, its not fake, he's literally hanging on to that airplane!"

Without that, loses a lot of its appeal.

Yeah, the whole action movie industry needs new blood.

 

[trappedslider]

At this point, I'm not even sure I have seen all of the movies in this franchise.

At what point is it time for a reboot or another origin story like 007.

so that after a given number, you can ask this again right?