Mmmm...Libris Mortis.

Felon said:
Hmm. As a DM, this is the exact sort of stuff I don't want to see in a book like Libris Mortis. Why would I want someone to tell my why different undead exist in my woirld?

Because there's some commonality of undead across most campaigns, far more than differences. In most campaigns, vampires come from another vampire's bite, and skeletons are raised by spells. Even though in some campaigns vampires and skeletons may fall from the sky, it would still be helpful to describe in general terms how a certain undead creature type comes about.
 

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**Off Topic** science question

seankreynolds said:
Scientists theorize that there are temperatures colder than "absolute zero;" temperature is defined as the average kinetic energy of molecules or atoms, and in theory there may be even colder states where the nuclear vibrations of the protons and neutrons slow down and even colder when the electrons slow down, too.

Off topic, but do you have a reference for this? At true absolute zero, it isn't just the motions of atoms and molecules that are "frozen" (within the limits of the uncertainty principle)--the motions of *all* particles, including nuclei, protons, and electrons, are "frozen" too. The recent breakthroughs on creating super-cold states like the Bose-Einstein condensate are examples of such states, but their temperatures are still above absolute zero (even if only by a zillionth of a degree). There are negative temperatures in physics, but they aren't colder than absolute zero; they're hotter than positive infinity.
 

I'm guessing that means someone already figured out my mildly-considered theory that if you heat something up to a certain degree that 'heat' loses its meaning? (Two atoms so excited that they're light years away from each other and such)

That would be -such- an ego boost if so, since I only got a B in physics (damned vectors).

But yeah, absolute zero is -absolute- zero. In theory, it could also means a stop in time, since velocity and time are generally beleived to be connected.

(again, B in Phys, heh).
 

Book of Eldritch Might
Ember Mage: Eyes of Fire Ability: "This fire is so hot that even creatures immune to fire suffer half damage..."

I thought that was a really bad idea then and still think so now. Though I won't claim to have thought about it in nearly that detail, my opinion was for basically the reasons Sean listed.

BoEM is still a great book, but that one thing was like a big "This way lies madness" sign.
 

Incenjucar said:
I'm guessing that means someone already figured out my mildly-considered theory that if you heat something up to a certain degree that 'heat' loses its meaning? (Two atoms so excited that they're light years away from each other and such)

If a single atom is moving at all, it has heat. Other particles are only involved if you want to transfer that heat.
 

Don't suppose we can move back to important issues...like why should undead pay homage to these other losers and not the real deal, Orcus. :p ;)


Well just thought I'd try that one...
 

PeterDonis said:
Off topic, but do you have a reference for this? At true absolute zero, it isn't just the motions of atoms and molecules that are "frozen" (within the limits of the uncertainty principle)--the motions of *all* particles, including nuclei, protons, and electrons, are "frozen" too. The recent breakthroughs on creating super-cold states like the Bose-Einstein condensate are examples of such states, but their temperatures are still above absolute zero (even if only by a zillionth of a degree). There are negative temperatures in physics, but they aren't colder than absolute zero; they're hotter than positive infinity.

Well one, I have a degree in chemistry, so I've read about this and specifically asked my professors about it.

Two, here's a quote from Ask Science Theatre: "Temperature is a physical quantity which gives us an idea of how hot or cold an object is. The temperature of an object depends on how fast the atoms and:)molecules which make up the object can shake, or oscillate. As an object is cooled, the oscillations of its atoms and molecules slow down. For example, as water cools, the slowing oscillations of the molecules allow the water to freeze into ice. In all materials, a point is eventually reached at which all oscillations are the slowest they can possibly be. The temperature which corresponds to this point is called absolute zero. Note that the oscillations never come to a complete stop, even at absolute zero."

Three, from Wikipedia.com encyclopedia: "For the case of free atoms at temperatures approaching absolute zero, most of the energy is in the form of translational motion and the temperature can be measured in terms of the speed of this motion, with slower speeds corresponding to lower temperatures. In fact because of quantum mechanical effects, the speed at absolute zero is not precisely zero, but depends, as does the energy, on the size of space within which the atom is confined. At absolute zero the molecules and atoms in a system are all in the ground state (i.e. the lowest possible energy state) and the system has the least possible amount of kinetic energy allowed by the laws of physics. This minimum energy corresponds to the zero-point energy encountered in the quantum mechanical particle in a box problem. As mentioned above, the lowest possible energy is not necessarily zero energy, due to the ramifications of quantum theory." (Later in this cite it talks about BEC being near-AZ, the negative temperature/hotter than infinity bit).

The above doesn't mention the movement of quarks and electrons (other than electrons being in their lowest ground state) ... so those subatomic particles are still moving in some way (for example, even in their lowest energy state, electrons are still moving at the speed of light), thus, energy. Theoretically, you could extract that energy (though in the real world we don't know how to do that) and thus make that material "colder," even if it's at absolute zero, but not in a sense meaningful to the use of the word "temperature."
 

Nightfall said:
Don't suppose we can move back to important issues...like why should undead pay homage to these other losers and not the real deal, Orcus. :p ;)


Well just thought I'd try that one...

I want to hear more about Evening Glory
 

Wycen said:
I want to hear more about Evening Glory

Evening Glory is a pretty interesting deity. She's the deity of eternal love, basically, believing that "desire and the desire for the love of another should never fall throug the depredations of age." She's the patron of those who seek undeath to keep love eternal, those whose love transcends life itself.

Most of her worshippers are undead or become undead soon after taking up worship of her.
 

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