Monk Code of Honour?

Axegrrl said:
I dunno, the stuff I bolded sounds pretty chaotic to me....

Let me rephrase. There was nothing chaotic about Odo. He had a set of laws that he followed, and the laws of the government in charge of the station where inconsequential compared to his internal set of rules. There's good, there's evil and then there's my set of rules.

Example: Something would happen on the station. Odo would investigate it until the trail would lead to a place where continuing the investigation would violate Star Fleet rules. Odo would say something like, well I'm not Star Fleet and continue to investigate. IE How many times did he sneak into Quarks back room based on a hunch that something was going on that he should know about, no search warrant, no probable cause, just a hunch.

To me that's lawful neutral.
 

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The player knows there are no evil characters and he will become an NPC if his alignment shifts. But his argument will be that he hasn't committed an evil act (or, more likely, that he hasn't committed a chaotic act). And the fact that he has no code gives him a better argument to say an act didn't violate his alignment. Thus, the reason for my post.

I'm pretty sure he's doing this to avoid having to create limitations for his character as he's been told several times to create a code for himself. It's now getting to the point where I'm going to create it for him.

p.s. let's get back on topic and not move into a debate re: what constitutes LN please.
 
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kamosa said:
Let me rephrase. There was nothing chaotic about Odo. He had a set of laws that he followed, and the laws of the government in charge of the station where inconsequential compared to his internal set of rules. There's good, there's evil and then there's my set of rules.

Example: Something would happen on the station. Odo would investigate it until the trail would lead to a place where continuing the investigation would violate Star Fleet rules. Odo would say something like, well I'm not Star Fleet and continue to investigate. IE How many times did he sneak into Quarks back room based on a hunch that something was going on that he should know about, no search warrant, no probable cause, just a hunch.

To me that's lawful neutral.
To me, that's a mix of Lawful and Chaotic Neutral.

From PH, p. 103:
"Lawful characters tell the truth, keep their word, respect authority.... Chaotic characters follow their conscience, resent being told what to do.... 'Law' implies... obedience to athority...."

A bit farther down, there's more text about neutral vs lawful or chaotic. That's what seems to fit Odo best.

I think I like the one from Kahuna Burger... now, how would you fit that into a situation where there is no king or nation? Loyalty to the city/town/etc works while you're in it, but what about when you're elsewhere?
 

Axegrrl said:
A bit farther down, there's more text about neutral vs lawful or chaotic. That's what seems to fit Odo best.
An understanding about Odo, however: He's seen the station change hands some half-dozen times (Cardasian to Star Fleet, to Bajoran, back to Star Fleet, to Dominion/Cardasian, then back to Star Fleet). In that time, his primary concern has remained (primarily) to keep the station running, operational, and crime-free (with definate leanings of prefering Star Fleet control over the others). In addition, he's not a member of any of those regimes (although his race rules the Dominion, he's always remained seperate of them until the end of the series, when he becomes their leader and hope for the future).

In short, Odo had his code of rules, and once you knew what they were, you could count on him to stick to them.

I think I like the one from Kahuna Burger... now, how would you fit that into a situation where there is no king or nation? Loyalty to the city/town/etc works while you're in it, but what about when you're elsewhere?
Your order, your people, your deity, the Grandfather of Spring, etc.

Loyalty to a city/town/etc. also works outside of that town; enemies abound and there are traitors everywhere. By vanquishing the powers of Chaos (and, in theory, Evil), one is making the world a safer place, and that benefits the [population center of choice].

And yes, those posted by Hand of Evil are good (ehr... Lawful Neutral).
 

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