Monk whirling steel strike

[DanMcS]

Don't forget, a quarterstaff is a two-handed monk weapon, and there's no mention of special penalties for using it in a Flurry.

-Hyp.

They don't use it as a two-handed weapon when flurrying, they use it as a double weapon, and "each end counts as a separate weapon for the purpose of using the flurry of blows ability". So it's like wielding two clubs, basically. Unless there's something in complete warrior, I don't think there are any weapons in 3.5 that are two-handed but not double, and monk weapons. We have very little to go in in regards to monks flurrying with a greatsword, for instance.

Me, I think a feat is a fair price to pay to be able to make pretty much any weapon a special monk weapon, as long as it keeps those prereqs (proficiency and weapon focus). That's three feats (or a fighter level and a feat) the monk could have sunk into dodge, mobility, and spring attack, or weapon focus (grapple), improved grapple, and combat reflexes, or whatever.

 

[Starglim]

Well, that and a greatsword is a two-handed weapon, whereas a Large longsword is not.

Also, a Medium character takes a -2 penalty for using a Large weapon because it's unsuited to his size. Monkey Grip does not remove this.

 

[Sejs]

They don't use it as a two-handed weapon when flurrying, they use it as a double weapon,

Reference? I'm not aware of anything that states a quarterstaff when used as part of a Flurry of Blows must be used as a double weapon.

 

[DanMcS]

Reference? I'm not aware of anything that states a quarterstaff when used as part of a Flurry of Blows must be used as a double weapon.

You know, I'm looking back through the SRD, and I think I extrapolated it out of:

"When using weapons as part of a flurry of blows, a monk applies her Strength bonus (not Str bonus × 1½ or ×½) to her damage rolls for all successful attacks, whether she wields a weapon in one or both hands."

and:

"In the case of the quarterstaff, each end counts as a separate weapon for the purpose of using the flurry of blows ability."

Hmmph. It looks like they could two-handed wield the quarterstaff. It would deal 1d6 + (strength bonus) damage, but would count as a two-handed weapon for power attack, I guess. Or they could attack with both ends, if they felt like it; each end would do 1d6+(strength bonus) damage.

That's why I like this forum, it helps me disabuse myself of my rules misimaginations.

 

[Christian]

Unless there's something in complete warrior, I don't think there are any weapons in 3.5 that are two-handed but not double, and monk weapons.

Eberron count? The Serpent Strike feat allows a monk to use a longspear as a special monk weapon ...

 

[tetsujin28]

Well, he is blowing a feat on it, after all. So no, I don't think it's too unbalancing. Besides, at 8th level on up, he'll be doing more than a d8, anyway. (Granted, the longsword has a better crit range.) So unless your campaign is rife with magic longswords, and poor on monky stuff, I think you'll be fine. I allowed monks to take rapier as a feat (to replicate the cool flexy Chinese swords), and there were no balance issues, at all.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Hmmph. It looks like they could two-handed wield the quarterstaff. It would deal 1d6 + (strength bonus) damage, but would count as a two-handed weapon for power attack, I guess.

And Disarm checks.

Quarterstaff is good for a disarming monk.

-Hyp.

 

[hong]

Somehow, if he's wary of allowing a feat from a WotC campaign setting, allowing a class from 'some guy on the Internet' strikes me as pretty unlikely.

Like THAT'S ever stopped me before either!