D&D 5E (2024) Monster manual Fey video up

[UngeheuerLich]

So they are really late in changing the name.

So they are in good company, aren't they?

 

[dave2008]

This influence seems obvious to me.

That is because of your bias. If you look at without bias the obvious answer, if there is one, is different.

 

[dave2008]

I'd say the messaging is weaker than the mechanic.

The designers chose to use, "Your PC has lost their feyness," as their messaging for the creature type change. As far as I'm concerned, that's a weak way to frame what they're doing.

The designers could have instead said, "There are plenty of humanoid creatures, all of whom appear in the NPC appendix. The rest of the book focuses on the most monstrous possible version of every listed creature." The average goblin in the woods is a Tribal Warrior. The archetypal monster goblin is a Fey with its own unique stat block, which it shares with no mere Humanoid.

To me, the latter framing of the rules change makes it sound way more awesome than WotC's wimpy "lost their feyness" framing.

For all we know that is how it is explained in the MM. I doubt, but we don't know yet. We will soon though!

 

[Remathilis]

So they are really late in changing the name

They are not alone:

PROTECTION FROM EVIL AND GOOD
1st-Circle Divine and Wyrd (Abjuration)
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Touch
Components: V, S, M (holy water or powdered silver and iron, which the spell consumes)
Duration: Concentration, up to 10 minutes

Until the spell ends, one willing creature you touch is protected against certain types of creatures: Aberrations, Celestials, Elementals, Fey, Fiends, and Undead.
The protection grants several benefits. Creatures of those types have disadvantage on attack rolls against the target.
The target also can’t be charmed, frightened, or possessed by them. If the target is already charmed, frightened, or possessed by such a creature, the target has advantage on any new save against the relevant effect.

Protection from Evil and Good
1st-level (abjuration; arcane, divine, protection)
Classes: Cleric, herald, warlock, wizard
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Touch
Target: One willing creature
Components: V, S, M (holy water orpowdered silver and iron, consumed bythe spell)
Duration: Concentration (10 minutes)

The target is protected against thefollowing types of creatures: aberrations,celestials, elementals, fey, fiends, andundead. Creatures of those types havedisadvantage on attack rolls against thetarget and are unable to charm, frighten, orpossess the target. If the target is already charmed, frightened, or possessed by sucha creature, the target has advantage on any new saving throw against that effect.

KP and EN Publishing also failed to properly rename the spell. Guess that's what happens when you copy other people's homework...

 

[Micah Sweet]

They are making new Fey monsters. The Archhag, a new Pixie and Satyr, a few more. You would know that if you actually watched the damn video instead of whining about it. The original Monster Manual was very lopsided in the amount of monsters in each creature type it had. Celestials, Fey, and Plants all had less than 10 monsters each. Dragons, Fiends, Monstrosities, and Humanoids all had dozens. They’re balancing out the lack of fey by making new fey options along with changing some of the older monsters in different creature types into fey (Centaurs, Goblinoids).

Didn’t you complain about how much WotC likes fey after Witchlight, Dragonlance, and Monsters of the Multiverse came out? I’m pretty sure if they had just added a ton of new fey to the Monster Manual instead of changing some you would be complaining about that.

Feel free to think that. I like new monsters. What I don’t like is retroactively changing existing things.

 

[Reynard]

And let's not get into how, in BECMI the spell never interacted with alignment either.

Selective outrage.

Who's outraged.

I don't think it has been alignment based for years.

Alignment just needs to go.

 

[Azzy]

Who's outraged.

The usual suspects.

 

[Scribe]

Alignment just needs to go.

Or, it just needs to come back in full.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Or, it just needs to come back in full.

I do miss alignment, but if you're going to insist it has to have more meaning than what cosmic team you've joined up with, I can take it or leave it.

 

[DarkCrisis]

I would also like them to change Barbarian to Berserker.