Bumping this thread because the party finally came up against another monster using charm abilities last session, and it became as contentious as I'd feared. As a note, this monster was a fragment of the Evening Glory, and her charm ability causes the target to regard her as their true love.
The glamour bard kept calm emotions readied every round for an instant cast on anyone who became charmed. Okay, fine.
The bard's player insisted that calm emotions should be able to auto-succeed against anyone he used it on, because the target can choose to fail the save.
So I tried targeting the bard himself. Of course, he had calm emotions readied, and the player said he would choose to fail against his own spell.
By the RAW, I can't see any reason for this not to work. But it makes a complete hash of the story if someone would just willingly fail a saving throw to convince them to stop loving their true love!
What do people think? How would you handle this?
The glamour bard kept calm emotions readied every round for an instant cast on anyone who became charmed. Okay, fine.
The bard's player insisted that calm emotions should be able to auto-succeed against anyone he used it on, because the target can choose to fail the save.
So I tried targeting the bard himself. Of course, he had calm emotions readied, and the player said he would choose to fail against his own spell.
By the RAW, I can't see any reason for this not to work. But it makes a complete hash of the story if someone would just willingly fail a saving throw to convince them to stop loving their true love!
What do people think? How would you handle this?