More on Enterprise's "new direction" [Slight Rant, long]

[Mark]

Well, you must mean that Benson or whatever that Vulcan on Voyager's name had to deal with it, too - but I wouldn't know - since I thought Voyager was pretty horrible and hardly ever watched it.

Tim Russ is about 30 years younger than Robert Guillaume. I'm always amazed how many folks claim Voyager was horrible coupled with a statement of how they hardly, if ever, watched the show. Let's stick with a discussion of things with which you are familiar so my forehead doesn't get brick impressions...

Spock had to deal with it . .. but couldn't they have waited to see if the show lasted 7 years first

I assume the wink is meant to mean the cycle of the Pon Farr doesn't need to coincide with the seven seasons of the series.

Nonetheless, there are a number of actual medical conditions that can be prematurely triggered by a virus so the plot device didn't bother me. How a condition that compels a vulcan to mate, and in this case gets displayed in a female vulcan, could hardly be done in a way too differently from how it was handled. And, as said before, since we've seen this in other main characters who happened to be vulcans throughout the franchise, to not do it would have been the greater of two evils, IMO.

You have to admit they use every excuse on that show to show was much T'Pal as possible and Hoshi as well. They are pretty and all, but I don't like my intelligence being insulted.

That's something that's been true of ST since day one, old timer. You should be used to it by now. The public standard is not being stretched by modern ST...especially compared to TOS. But you know that.

Uh, someone who grew up watching TOS episodes on Sunday afternoons and who watched most of TNG.

Uh?

...what Enterprise needs to make it a "real" Trek show - more flawed God-like beings, situations involving the unknown and unexplainable, magic-like technology - it needs the awe and the weirdness factor that TOS had.

Please copy and paste it here (or just hit the highlights) if you'd like to discuss it further.

 

[Eternalknight]

You have to admit they use every excuse on that show to show was much T'Pal as possible and Hoshi as well. They are pretty and all, but I don't like my intelligence being insulted.

T'pol yes (even though I don't think she is shown to be sexual very often - at least a lot less than seven of nine).

But Hoshi? How often have we had a story based on Hoshi? Even Travis gets more air time.

 

[Ratchis]

T'pol yes (even though I don't think she is shown to be sexual very often - at least a lot less than seven of nine).

But Hoshi? How often have we had a story based on Hoshi? Even Travis gets more air time.

I was just thinking at the beginning of this season when her top got caught on something as she crawled around the air ducts and when she jumped through the hatch it was ripped off. . .

How clever!

 

[John Crichton]

I was just thinking at the beginning of this season when her top got caught on something as she crawled around the air ducts and when she jumped through the hatch it was ripped off. . .

How clever!

It wasn't meant to be sexy, it was meant to be funny, IMO. I laughed. Anyone who is turned on by that needs to get out more...

 

[el-remmen]

Oops!

I was just thinking at the beginning of this season when her top got caught on something as she crawled around the air ducts and when she jumped through the hatch it was ripped off. . .

How clever!

This was really me, Nemmerle - my friend was logged in on my machine and I didn't notice until after I posted. . .

 

[John Crichton]

Re: Oops!

This was really me, Nemmerle - my friend was logged in on my machine and I didn't notice until after I posted. . .

Doh!

Can't you just delete it in Mod God Mode?

 

[Eternalknight]

I was just thinking at the beginning of this season when her top got caught on something as she crawled around the air ducts and when she jumped through the hatch it was ripped off. . .

How clever!

Ah fair enough, but as John said that was supposed to be funny, not sexual. We have seen her in a sexual moment though... one of the last episodes of season one had her in bed with someone.

 

[myrdden]

Ah fair enough, but as John said that was supposed to be funny, not sexual. We have seen her in a sexual moment though... one of the last episodes of season one had her in bed with someone.

Was that the episode where they went to Risa? I don't think there was anything overtly sexual about that episode or that scene. It fit well with the atmosphere of the episode and wasn't gratuitous (at least not that I can remember).

It would appear that everyone BUT the captain is finding love in space. No wonder Kirk got it all in TOS the balance needed to be maintained!

Myrdden

 

[John Crichton]

Was that the episode where they went to Risa? I don't think there was anything overtly sexual about that episode or that scene. It fit well with the atmosphere of the episode and wasn't gratuitous (at least not that I can remember).

IIRC, it was the season premiere* where the crew was retaking the ship. Hoshi had to squeeze through some tight spot, dropped through the ceiling and her uniform was caught and her top was ripped off. She was briefly stuck covering her chest which was no big deal. Now I like a scene like that every so often just as much as the next guy but I found it more funny than anything.

* Footnote: I could be completely wrong about the actual episode where it happened but it was a retaking of the ship ep.

 

[mojo1701]

* Footnote: I could be completely wrong about the actual episode where it happened but it was a retaking of the ship ep.

No, that's right. It was Shockwave, Part II.