More on Enterprise's "new direction" [Slight Rant, long]

[Mark]

-and even wish (as I have said before) that they'd introduce more secondary characters (like TNG had Broccoli and Ro and O'Brian and his wife) -

They had an Ensign Cutler in the show that was along those lines and trading time with Phlox, but the person in the role got an offer to do another show fulltime, I guess, and took door number two. Hard to keep people around, I suppose, when they need to work as much as they can. They've got the General and his troops coming on board next fall. That should add plenty of secondary characters.

 

[John Crichton]

On secondary characters: Admiral Forest and Savol are 2 that come to mind. They're not on the ship but they do show up in a healthy chunk of the episodes.

 

[Viking Bastard]

Perhps I can give it another chance, and enjoy the good portions while not allowing the reminader to bother me. I've also heard it would be best to watch straight from the beginning, though. Maybe collecting the series is the only way to ensure I see it in the best light.

Yeah, B5 is one of these shows that's very hard to get into
midstream. I saw a couple of episodes and thought little of it.
Some of the acting was all over the place (mostly the guest stars,
I guess they were cheap), the sets seemed to be collapsing on
themselves and the FX seemed like an mediocre video game. And
the plotlines were not only confusing but also just seemed
generally boring. Politics?!? I mean, I like politics are great
with other stuff, but only politics? Ugh!

Nuttin' that caught my fancy.

Then, when bored, I rented the first few episodes on video and I
just immediently needed to know more. So I rented more and
more and had watched the whole series in under three months.

It's that damn good!

 

[buzzard]

translated to:
(I need to have the last word so SHUT UP! You insulted my precious Voyager!)

You know, you ought to learn to live with someone criticizing your show. It would probably reduce your stress level. I don't really manage to invest enough in any show I watch to waste this much time defending it. Heck, I'm just enjoying stringing you along at the moment.

buzzard

 

[Eternalknight]

You know, you ought to learn to live with someone criticizing your show. It would probably reduce your stress level. I don't really manage to invest enough in any show I watch to waste this much time defending it. Heck, I'm just enjoying stringing you along at the moment.

buzzard

Guys, can we talk about Enterprise?

Ok, we have been speculating about then next season - now, what would you like to see happen?

 

[buzzard]

Guys, can we talk about Enterprise?

Ok, we have been speculating about then next season - now, what would you like to see happen?

Fair enough. I have to say I didn't really see the need for the change in direction myself. I thought the series was fine (with some bowser episodes, but what show is free from them?). They already had a story arc (TCW). I guess they just wanted to jazz things up. Were ratings that bad?

I'm not really sure what to expect. I imagine that the Delphic stuff will just let the writers do all kinds of funky stuff. I suspect that is the justification.

buzzard

 

[Brown Jenkin]

Were ratings that bad?

Yes

 

[Mark]

Fair enough.

Sounds good.

I have to say I didn't really see the need for the change in direction myself. I thought the series was fine (with some bowser episodes, but what show is free from them?). They already had a story arc (TCW). I guess they just wanted to jazz things up. Were ratings that bad?

I'm not really sure what to expect. I imagine that the Delphic stuff will just let the writers do all kinds of funky stuff. I suspect that is the justification.

I think you're right about the extended freedom the writers will have with this new tact. The ratings were lower than anyone would have hoped for an ST series and I'm all for anything that ensures a better show and one that lasts for a full run.

 

[myrdden]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When do the Romulans get warp drive?

Simply put, TOS episodes and book that had Romulans without warp tech weren't properly thought through. I won't cry to see them correct that rather nasty error in Enterprise continuity. Go ahead and give the Romulans warp technology. Simply don't allow the early Romulans to cloak and warp at the same time, and everything's cool.

Amen to that.

Myrdden

 

[Orius]

That's rather odd. I found Kes to be a bit annoying and didn't really enojoy the show as much in the earlier episodes. Her voice was kinda grating, to me, and she had a condescending lilt to it. Some people I know have called it "soothing" while others agreed with me. A lot of people have mentioned in the past that they didn't enjoy the show until Seven of Nine came on the scene.

I'm sort of with you on this. I never really cared much for Kes. The basic idea behind her character, that she was from a race with a 9-year life expectancy was kind of lame if you ask me. And she bored me, I never really found her interesting. Her voice didn't really annoy me though.

I lost interest in Voyager around the middle of the second season. I found the show to be terribly dull and boring. I think perhaps the Kazon contributed to that; they weren't really any threat, but Janeway handled them poorly. I though the show did get more interesting for a while after Seven was introduced, until all the episodes started revolving around Seven and the Doctor. I hated that Naomi Wildman kid, and local syndication of the episodes got a little unreliable. They kept moving between different timeslots, and I'm not even sure if the seventh season was aired, but at that point I didn't really care. They are aired every weeknight on a regular basis, so I occasionally catch some episodes I missed.