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hong said:


I've just remembered the group I normally game with. Let me withdraw this suggestion.

AAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

I tear out my own eyes, yet still I see!!!!! >_<

(Sorry. That was just an image of most of my group I needed like I need a green slime enema...)
 

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Gez

First Post
This cover is silly, but I'd like to clear something up.

I see the "porn" word used continually for things that aren't pornographic. Erotic, maybe, bad taste maybe (in the case of that botched cover, surely); but not pornographic.

"Porn" comes from the greek word meaning "prostitue". Pornography is describing and illustrating sexuality comparable to prostitution: deshumanizing sexuality, without sentiments or feel for the others. Yep, that cover can be seen as trying to be arousing. But, she's not stuffed with a dildo, she's not engaged in a sexual activity, and she even have some sort of clothing.

It's like these peoples over at the FR deities boards on wizard repeatedly saying Eilistraee is the deity of porn. Sheesh.

Erotism is not porn, bad taste is not necessarily porn (although the reverse is always true), and when you remove your clothings to take a bath, it's not porn neither (unless you are really wicked).
 

Mynex

First Post
Re: some real art

Waylander the Slayer said:
Heh, i think i have seen that pose from my girl friend...not!!! hmm maybe i could ask her...Heres some REAL art...of the missing dwarf of course (Avalanche and others take note).

Dwarven Barbarian

Most Impressive! I've not seen such an excellent rendition of a Dwarf in any Published product in a long time.

Any publisher that is doing a book on dwarves definately should use you! Do you have any other art on the net?

Oh, yea, the thread. :p

Well, Since my rommie is graduating from College of Creative Studies in 2 weeks, I won't bother to type in her response to this cover here (Besides, I'd have to edit it to high heaven and back to make it readable :D )...

As for me, I personally don't like it one bit. Doesn't mean that the material is useless, doesn't make it porn, I just see it as unecessary in my opinion. *shrug*

The benefit for Avalanche however, is that they get all this wonderful exposure here because of all the threads about their *cough* women, that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

Again, *shrug*
 

Cergorach

The Laughing One
Thanks for 'correcting' us Gez. But i would be so bold as to say that if porn is a form of prostitution, the idea behind this cover equals porn...

I know what erotic is, and this is just not it. This is a cheap shot at getting male gamers to buy a product based on only the image of a half naked woman (and i'm guessing that the original image had a lot less clothing, do boots count?). What's next? Dressing up female teachers in 'erotic' clothes so that more boys go to school???

I don't know about others, but just as females don't like it that males seem to think of them as sex objects, i don't like it when companies seem to think that we can only make decisions with our 'head'.

I recall a thread (that went on for far too long, please don't let this one get that long) that critizized Mongoose for showing topless females, i really don't mind that (it's a minor illustration), but this is THE eyecatcher for the product... Shees!!!

[/rant]
 

Gez

First Post
I'm not sure this cover will give them more customers. Myself, for example, would avoid buying it because of the cover, even if I were interested in the content. That cover is just bad taste and silly.
 

Cergorach

The Laughing One
*grins*

And let's not forget that some RPGers have significant others, i wonder what they would say if their other half gets home with something like that ;-)

A week on the balcony?
 

Voadam

Legend
The pose is horrible on this one, she seems to be doing a sideways dodge and spring and firing on the go. I also can't quite make out whether the bowstring was going over or under her arm. It is also not that norse. This one and the Atlantis one bug me, the triple sword thing she is wielding ruins the cover for me. I did get the Ragnorak one (50% off) and liked its cover (obviously a priestess of Loki gloating over having stolen a priest of Thor's hammer) but this one is just not as good a cover. I am still interested in norse d20 material and might peruse the contents when it comes out. I am looking forward to the Vlad Tepes one as well, and it has a good cover.
 

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