Most broken prestige classes?

Frenzied Berserker. I have to at least mention that onerous error in the editors' and designers' judgment. It was bad enough being printed so carelessly in 3.0, but then to be reprinted more or less verbatim and still completely unhinged?

*shakes his head in shame*
 

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Herzog said:
I am rather surprised no one mentioned the Arcane Hierophant yet.

It's the first (and so far only) PrC I consider too powerfull both as a Player AND as a DM.

However, if someone could point out to me why this PrC is balanced, I might be convinced otherwise.

Herzog


loosing caster levels on both ends? its strong, I agree.
 

If there is a harder Prestige class to qualify for thean Arcane Heirpophant, i don't know what it is. I would probably not allow it if I was starting at high level, jsut like i would be leery of Mystic Theurge or any otehr class that has a really painful few levels.

I doubt many would tkae Arcane Heirophant if htey ahd to play through the first 7(?) levels befroe you can qualify for the class. With all that multi-classing, it would be a real struggle.
 

I agree on that too. While the prc is strong, i dont know if i would ever play one for what charicter has to give up to get into the class. im not a big fan of the dual caster prcs. too many caster levels lost.
 

My biggest issue with it is that it duplicates the Mystic Thuerge, with only slightly higher requirements (which will be met whenever you have druid as the devine caster class instead of cleric,and only one or two levels later) ,while retaining most of your class features and getting a whole list of additional class features.

Maybe my fault is comparing to Mystic Thuerge, but since that is the Core Prestige Class that resembles it the most, I can't help but wonder what they where thinking when they build this class.

Herzog
 

Speaking of the mystic theurge, I still remember Hyp predicting what would happen now they had an arcane/divine spellcaster PrC: next would be arcane/arcane, then divine/divine, etc, etc leading to the ultimate situation of one PrC for every possible combination of spellcaster or spellcaster-lookalike. And now IT'S COMING TRUE
 


Talkkno said:
Planar Shepard(Faiths of Eberron)
Like a druid, only better.(Wild shaping into outsiders, gaining supernatural and spell likes, full caster, animal compain progression....Planar bubble time trait abuse.)

The Planar Shepherd is quite hilarously broken. Some classes probably looked okay on paper, or are tame unless combined with something else from another book. But the PS makes you wonder if it's some sort of very subtle joke, satire or test being made of DM's. It's painfully obvious that it didn't see any playtesting whatsoever while the pages of flavour text were being written.

The abuses are legion--to name one, take Shavrath as your plane and then you can change to Glabrezu form to grant everyone Wishes. Once everyone has an inherent +5 to all their stats, you can change into an archon and gain spell-like abilities equal to your normal spells per day.

If creatures from other books are allowed, it shoots through the roof! Change into an Elemental Weird, and you can use Foresight, Find the Path and Discern Location as supernatural abilities at will, as a free action, plus the ability to summon elementals.


Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil makes it too easy to become functionally invulnerable (violet + green veil means you are impervious to all spells, and anyone who hits you in melee must make a Fortitude and Will save-or-lose, taking CON damage even if they pass the second).
 

Maybe my fault is comparing to Mystic Thuerge, but since that is the Core Prestige Class that resembles it the most, I can't help but wonder what they where thinking when they build this class.
If you go mystic theurge with a cleric, the only class ability you lose is turning. But if you go mystic theurge with a druid, you miss out on abilities like wildshape, a significant part of the druid's power. So a druid/arcane PrC has to function differently than a cleric/arcane PrC like the MT. (Assuming that the druid and cleric are of the same powerlevel in the first place.)
 

starwed said:
If you go mystic theurge with a cleric, the only class ability you lose is turning. But if you go mystic theurge with a druid, you miss out on abilities like wildshape, a significant part of the druid's power. So a druid/arcane PrC has to function differently than a cleric/arcane PrC like the MT. (Assuming that the druid and cleric are of the same powerlevel in the first place.)

Doesn't AH even get a HD upgrade, though?
 

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