Movies that I just don't get

[barsoomcore]

That it is. That it is.

Betcha you hated the D&D movie, right?

See?

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Funny...a lot of the reasons given against cliches in Anime could easily be used for ANY genre...lets say..ohhh...D&D.

Another hater of Ninja Scroll here. Not my thing...I'm more of a mecha fan. Mobile Suit Gundam, Zeta, and Gundam 0080 are wonderful stories that STARTED cliches.

 

[Villano]

I might just as well say, "Many people who like anime don't understand what a sexist, creepy power fantasy it really is. It requires a deeper watch to truly understand the depth to which this genre generally caters to repressed young men with confidence issues."

Wow, I have to start watching Hamtaro.

I've always felt it was silly when people make blanket statements about how they don't like "anime". Anime is just cartoons from Japan. There are a million genres within it. It's like saying, "I hate Asian movies because they're all about kung-fu fighting."

And you realize that you're stereotyping anime fans...on a D&D website. No stereotypes attached to that hobby. No, sir.

EDIT: Ankh-Morpork Guard beat me to that last point on his post. Damn, him!

 

[takyris]

Yeah, we addressed that earlier on this page, I believe.

I retracted part of that statement -- and it WAS phrased in the conditional as a response, rather than as an active statement.

You guys DID read the whole thread before responding, right? The part where I also mentioned the few anime movies I had liked?

That said, generally speaking, as a rule of thumb, I have personally, in my own experience, which does not have to be representative of the entire world, found that if you tell a D&D player that he's doing something geeky, he says, "Hey, it's fun, I like it." If you tell an anime-watcher that he's doing something geeky, he tells you that you're not intelligent enough to appreciate the purity of the form. The D&D player is not defending anything except his right to enjoy whatever he likes. The anime-watcher is making an attack, or, in this example, a counterattack. Now a counterattack to a personal attack is fine, but a counterattack to somebody saying "I don't like anime" is not.

I don't generally start fights with people who like things that I don't like, because, really, what's the point? I'm not going to start liking something if you argue with me enough, and I'm not going to convince you to start liking something by browbeating you.

I said I didn't like most anime. The topic of the thread was about not liking stuff. That's the whole point of this thread. Other people were disagreeing politely under the "different people, different tastes" rule, and then Pezdude responded by implying that if I were more intelligent or sophisticated or educated, I might learn to appreciate anime. This mysteriously failed to convert me to a state of love and respect for anime, and, in fact, served to reinforce the stereotype that I have about anime-loving-folks.

Should I let Pezdude respond and then post "Done with Thread", or should I just say that now?

 

[Pseudonym]

Random side-note: Loved "Office Space", mostly because I started working at a dot-com that month and we went as a group as a Friday movie-day thing. The door with the static-charge... That WAS my office.

Our QC officer has a red swingline stapler, and we joke about it all the time.

My lab seems to have this inordinate obsession with having cake, for any conceivable occasion. Every time I find myself passing plates of cake down a line of people there, I and several others break out laughing.

 

[Mercule]

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Survivor is just about the only reality TV show where it comes into play because of the voting structure of the game. Most of the rest don't have this element, many of them don't even have voting elements to the game (and hence, hold little interest for me).

I'll agree that Survivor is more interesting than the other "reality" shows. It's just that saying so is a bit like saying that being crushing your big toe with a mallet is more comfortable than removing it, to the foot, with a cheese grater.

 

[Fast Learner]

Pulp Fiction is almost exclusively style for style's sake. If you dig just absorbing the style elements (as I do) then you'll dig the movie. If you're looking for some kind of deeply original characterization or a unique plot then you won't.

Pulp Fiction is enjoyable to those who like it simply because of the clothes, the language, the delivery, and the editing style. Just how the movie "feels."

Tarantino is not unlike Mamet in that respect. If you like super-clipped dialogue (which Rebecca Pidgeon, for example, is a pro at delivering), dialogue that often not only doesn't move the plot together nor provide any characterization but in fact often is there to just provide the right number of "beats" in the scene, then you'll dig his films. If you don't then it doesn't matter how good the plot or characters are, the delivery style will drive you nutty.

Fortunately, as in all art, there's no objective criteria that can be applied to determine its worth. Respected subjective criteria, sure, but it holds no real weight in the end.

 

[Villano]

Yeah, we addressed that earlier on this page, I believe.

I retracted part of that statement -- and it WAS phrased in the conditional as a response, rather than as an active statement.

You guys DID read the whole thread before responding, right? The part where I also mentioned the few anime movies I had liked?

Yes, and I was merely pointing out that anime isn't a genre. It ranges from tentacle-raping porn (add that to the list of things I don't get) to children's cartoons. There isn't a certain type of anime fan.

That said, generally speaking, as a rule of thumb, I have personally, in my own experience, which does not have to be representative of the entire world, found that if you tell a D&D player that he's doing something geeky, he says, "Hey, it's fun, I like it." If you tell an anime-watcher that he's doing something geeky, he tells you that you're not intelligent enough to appreciate the purity of the form. The D&D player is not defending anything except his right to enjoy whatever he likes. The anime-watcher is making an attack, or, in this example, a counterattack. Now a counterattack to a personal attack is fine, but a counterattack to somebody saying "I don't like anime" is not.

I said I didn't like most anime. The topic of the thread was about not liking stuff. That's the whole point of this thread.

I have no problem even if you don't like any anime whatsoever. I just objected when it went from "I don't like..." or "I don't understand how anyone could like..." to "People who actually like it are...".

 

[Hypersmurf]

A wise man once spoke on the topic of Tolerance. The line has always remained with me:

"Don't ram your religion down my throat, and I won't ram my fridge down yours."

The sentiment's been expressed a few times on this thread - you're welcome to describe your tastes, and to express bewilderment, but please don't try and force those tastes on others.

The thread has been mostly self-policing so far, but let's make sure we all count to ten before hitting "Send" if we're feeling emotional

Thanks,
-Hyp.
(Moderator)

 

[Dinkeldog]

That it is. That it is.

Betcha you hated the D&D movie, right?

See?

Nah. I took it for what it was. I've seen worse, and films that first time through I thought were offal (That dragonslayer movie with Peter MacNichol, for example), I've later revised in my mind. If the D&D movie were on cable, I'd probably catch it a couple more times this month.

Actually, the one constant I've found in my life is that Rankin & Bass version of "The Return of the King". That one just suh-hucked (to borrow from (contact)).