Multiple crits on the same power?

[Markn]

Many ranger powers allow multiple attacks. If you score multiple crits with those attacks, do you get to roll the weapon crit damage dice more than once?

Logically, the answer seems to be yes. But the damage from rolling the crit dice multiple times puts the damage into the stratusphere and so I am not sure anymore.

Is there a rules citation that someone can point me to on this?

Edit - To be clear I am seeking an answer to multiple crits to 1 target by 1 power that has multiple attack rolls.

 

[Flipguarder]

Yes, and when you consider it happens 1/400 turns, I ok with that.

 

[Markn]

Epic tier sees this happen much more often than you would think...

 

[Flipguarder]

1/200 turns?

At the end of the day, if you don't like this, Im curious how you feel about invoker and wizard powers. Area burst 2 powers can target 25 people, thats more then 50% probability you will crit even without crit expanding powers.

God knows it doesn't happen like this normally, but I dare say getting 4 or 5 enemies in an area burst 4 is hardly out of the question

 

[Markn]

Well lets see,

In epic, our ranger can crit on a 19-20. He has the elf ability to reroll every encounter and I think he has a power that crits on a 18 or better.

I'm not saying its common, but its far more likely than you are suggesting in the epic tier.

I'm also not against the multiple crit on one creature. Just trying to find out if this is legal.

As for wizards/invokers - their powers target multiple people and the crits happen on multiple people. I'm more interested in multiple crits against one target with one power.

 

[Mr. Teapot]

1/200 turns?

It's 1/100 turns to doublecrit on Twin Strike if you crit on 19-20 and have nothing else focused on crits. Increase your ability to crit to 18-20 or add in more attacks per turn via Cascade of Blades or minor/free/immediate action attacks and a ranger could score two or more crits on the same turn every couple combats, and reliably hit a crit every few rounds. There are builds made for it.


And it's perfectly reasonable to get the bonus crit damage multiple times in a given round, even on the same guy. No rule prevents it in any way.

 

[Turtlejay]

A better question would be: Why *wouldn't* this be legal?

Things like this happen pretty rarely, even 1/100 is probably once a level, depending on the things you fight.

Just last session our Archer Ranger rolled 2 20's on Twin Strike. I posted a photo (taken with a cruddy cell phone) on my blog in my sig.

Considering it was just as likely that he rolled 2 1's, I'm not too concerned. It's all just random chance.

Jay

 

[DracoSuave]

Your job as a DM is not to find ways to prevent characters from doing cool things. It's to prevent them from doing unbalanced things.

Let's say you have two combat rounds.

Is doing two crits in one round (and none the next round) any more unbalanced than doing one crit two rounds in a row?

Not really.

So there's no rational reason for the DM to prevent it.