Gundark said:I was shocked that spycraft got blanked at the enines. What surprised me more was that shadowrun v.4 beat it out in a category or 2. Surprised me as I heard a lot of griping about SR4. Oh well Spycraft 2.0 got my vote. It's the best game out there IMHO. I don't know M&M2.
Henry said:As usual, all the griping masked a rather sizeable number of people who LOVED the smoothed-off edges of the new system. There were a pretty large number of adopters, from the info I've seen here and at Dumpshock.
I was a 3rd edition fan, and I liked the changes I have seen compared to 2nd edition. But the 4th edition is again a big improvement. Unfortunately, as I am not very interested in running a SR game, our group will probably not play it again any time soon...Vigilance said:Yeah, the system was a fairly big departure from 3rd edition, so if you liked 3rd edition, you are prone to gripe.
But most unbiased reviews I have read attest to the fact that, despite its differences with 3rd edition which might displease some vocal diehards, that Shadowrun 4th edition is an EXCELLENT set of rules and a big upgrade.
Chuck
Mustrum_Ridcully said:I was a 3rd edition fan, and I liked the changes I have seen compared to 2nd edition. But the 4th edition is again a big improvement. Unfortunately, as I am not very interested in running a SR game, our group will probably not play it again any time soon...
Pbartender said:You know...
It's discussions like this that sometimes make me wonder why there isn't a "Most Improved RPG" category in the ENnies.
Henry said:That implies it sucked before...
Pbartender said:Well, not necessarily... but I see your point.
It's just that sometimes it seems the winners for the "best" categories aren't always chosen for actually being the best, but for being so much better than a previous edition by comparison. Maybe it's just me.