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D&D 5E My MMII Wishlist

Jargogle

aka Colin Chapman
Just for kicks, I put together a thorough listing of what I hoped would form a speculative MMII. What do you think? What would your list look like? What would you add/remove? It's likely more than they could fit, but hope springs eternal. ;)

Edit: New additions in RED. All together, the entries would form a book around 240 pages in length if formatted the same and illustrated the same as the current MM, inclusive of Contents pages. A reasonably large volume, if smaller than the current MM (though it would likely retail for the same due to smaller print runs necessitated by it not being the main core monster volume).

MMII

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Aquatic Variants (Koalinth, Lacedon, Scrag)

Aranea
Archon (Hound, Lantern, Sword, Trumpet)
Asperi
Aspis (Drone, Larva, Cow)
Astral Dreadnought
Atomie
Balhannoth
Banderhobb
Barghest (Barghest, Whelp)
Beholders (Death Kiss, Director, Eyeball, Eye of the Deep, Gorbel, Hive Mother, Lensman, Overseer, Watcher)
Bodak
Bonesnapper
Brain in a Jar
Brownie
Buckawn
Caterwaul
Catoblepas
Cave Fisher
Chitine/Choldrith
Choker

Coffer Corpse
Clockwork Horror (Copper, Silver, Gold, Electrum, Platinum, Adamantite)
Crimson Death
Crypt Thing
Crysmal
Dark Creeper/Stalker
Decapus
Demodand (Shaggy, Slime, Tarry)
Demon (Bebelith, Nabassu, Retriever, Rutterkin)
Derro
Devil (Abishai – Black/Blue/Green/Red/White, Nupperibo)
Devourer
“Dinosaurs” (Apatosaurus, Archelon, Compsognathus, Deinonychus, Dunkleosteus, Hadrosaurus, Icthyosaurus, Iguanodon, Kronosaurus, Ornithomimus, Pachycephalosaurus, Spinosaurus, Stegosaurus, Therizinosaurus)
Dragon, Catastrophic (Blizzard, Earthquake, Volcanic)
Dragon, Gem (Amethyst, Crystal, Emerald, Sapphire, Topaz)
Dragonne
Eidolon/Rogue Eidolon
Eladrin (Coure, Bralani, Firre, Ghaele, Noviere, Shiere, Shiradi, Tulani)
Elemental Grue (Chaggrin, Harginn, Ildriss, Varrdig)
Elf, Aquatic
Ethergaunt (Black, Red, White)
Eye of Fear and Flame
Feyr (Feyr, Greater Feyr)
Fire Drake
Firenewt
Flail Snail
Formian (Worker, Warrior, Myrmarch, Taskmaster, Queen)
Forsaken Shell
Froghemoth (Froghemoth, Tadhemoth)
Giant (Desert, Jungle, Reef)
Giantkin (Firbolg, Verbeeg, Voadkyn)
Gnome, Spriggan
Golem (Bone, Brain, Caryatid Column, Glass, Iron Cobra, Necrophidius, Topiary, Web, Wood)
Grig
Grippli
Guardinal (Avoral, Cervidal, Equinal, Leonal, Lupinal, Musteval, Ursinal)
Hag, Annis
Half-Demon (Alu, Draegloth, Fey’ri, Tanarukk)
Heucuva
Hybsil
Illithidae (Elder Brain, Neothelid, Ulitharid)
Inevitable (Kolyarut, Marut, Quarut, Zalakhut)
Ixitxachitl (Ixitxachitl, Vampiric Ixitxachitl)
Jermlaine
Kamadan
Kampfult
Kelpie
Kopru

Korred
Lammasu
Leucrotta
Lich (Alhoon, Baelnorn)
Lillend
Lycanthropes (Foxwoman, Werebadger, Werebat, Werecrocodile, Werejaguar, Wereshark, Werespider)
Manscorpion
Mimic, House Hunter
Mongrelfolk
Naga (Dark, Water)
Neogi
Nereid
Nixie
Nuckelavee
Nymph
Paraelemental (Ice, Magma, Ooze, Smoke)
Pech
Phoenix
Plants (Basidirond, Giant Sundew, Hangman Tree, Mantrap, Stranglevine, Strangleweed, Thorny, Tri-Flower Frond)
Prehistoric Beasts (Andrewsarchus, Basilosaurus, Brontotherium, Chalicotherium, Dorudon, Glyptodon, Indricotherium, Megatherium)
Psurlon
Quickling
Redcap
Sandling
Shedu
Sirine
Skeleton Warrior
Spawn of Kyuss
Sphinx (Crio, Hieraco)
Su Monster
Sylph
Tabaxi
Tasloi
Tentamort
Triton
Tsochar
Ulgurstasta

Vargouille
Vegepygmy
Wemic
Wendigo
Wolfwere
Xag-Ya/Xeg-Yi
Xvart
Yellow Musk Creeper (Creeper, Zombie)
Yugoloth (Canoloth, Dergholoth, Gacholoth, Hydroloth, Piscoloth, Yagnoloth)

Appendix Entries
Barracuda
Cat, Winged
Cave Cricket
Cave Moray
Cheetah
Cooshee (Elven Dog)
Dolphin
Fire Bat
Fox
Giant Ant (Worker, Soldier, Queen)
Giant Bee (Worker, Soldier, Queen)
Giant Beetle (Bombardier, Stag, Water)
Giant Jellyfish
Giant Leech
Giant Lynx

Giant Mantis
Giant Moray
Giant Slug

Giant Snake, Amphisbaena
Gull
Hare

Hippocampus
Hippopotamus
Jackelope
Jellyfish
Lynx
Monkey
Moray
Ostrich
Otter

Parrot
Penguin
Porcupine
Raccoon
Rothe
Seal
Skunk
Sperm Whale
Squirrel
Stingray
Swarm of Locusts
Terrier
Walrus
 
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I agree with, oh, 95% of your list. Well done. :)

I don't ever want to see gem dragons back, though. I'd much rather the catastrophic and plague dragons from 4E.
 

MortalPlague

Adventurer
Cat, Winged

Eh?

Good list, I'd like to see most of these too. I don't recall seeing a winged cat before, though.

In a new Monster Manual, I'd definitely like to see some new content as well. Updated stat blocks are all well and good, but innovation is a good thing too. Keeps the old players who've seen everything on their toes.
 

Jargogle

aka Colin Chapman
I agree with, oh, 95% of your list. Well done. :)

I don't ever want to see gem dragons back, though. I'd much rather the catastrophic and plague dragons from 4E.

I'll happily take 95% agreement any day of the week for a list like this. ;) I tried to really hit the main missing entries, any holes I saw, and also present the quintessential "second tier" critters.
 

rjfTrebor

Banned
Banned
I'd actually like to see the WotC team come up with some completely new monsters in addition to probably 88% of Jargogle's list.

my personal pick would be the Balhannoth. I got killed by one in 4e and it's been one of my favorite monsters since.
 

Jargogle

aka Colin Chapman
Eh?

Good list, I'd like to see most of these too. I don't recall seeing a winged cat before, though.

They're often called Tressym, and date back to 2e, IIRC.
In a new Monster Manual, I'd definitely like to see some new content as well. Updated stat blocks are all well and good, but innovation is a good thing too. Keeps the old players who've seen everything on their toes.

I'd rather see all the old favourites presented first; a lot of new entries are either redundant (because D&D has presented so many damn critters over the years there's a reasonable chance something has already been done) or not necessarily that good. I'd prefer all-new beasties appear together in an all-new volume (a single book devoted entirely to the new). Certainly, I'd want MMII to only present existing entries, if only because so many good/cool ones were left out of MMI's essential collection.
 

Jargogle

aka Colin Chapman
I'd actually like to see the WotC team come up with some completely new monsters in addition to probably 88% of Jargogle's list.

my personal pick would be the Balhannoth. I got killed by one in 4e and it's been one of my favorite monsters since.

Thanks for the kind words. Care to describe the Balhannoth, please (I didn't do 4e, so I've no idea what it is)?
 

rjfTrebor

Banned
Banned
Thanks for the kind words. Care to describe the Balhannoth, please (I didn't do 4e, so I've no idea what it is)?

it's like a large, tentacled, cave-dwelling aberration that can teleport around.

Balhannoth_Image.jpg
 



Anth

First Post
There is an earlier thread about monsters people missed in MM, but my Google Fu is weak today.
And I miss Son of Kyuss.
 


Adding to your list, I'd love to have official derro stats for my Night Below conversion. Also, the giff would be a good addition. Mercenary spelljamming hippopotamus for the win! :D
 


Klaus

First Post
Just for kicks, I put together a thorough listing of what I hoped would form a speculative MMII. What do yiu think? What would your list look like? What would you add/remove? It's likely more than they could fit, but hope springs eternal. ;)

Aranea
Archon (Hound, Lantern, Sword, Trumpet)
Aspis (Drone, Larva, Cow)
Atomie
Barghest (Barghest, Whelp)
Beholders (Eyeball, Eye of the Deep, Gorbel, Hive Mother)
Bodak
Bonesnapper
Brownie
Buckawn
Caterwaul
Catoblepas
Cave Fisher
Coffer Corpse
Chrysmal
Clockwork Horror (Copper, Silver, Gold, Electrum, Platinum, Adamantite)
Crimson Death
Dark Creeper/Stalker
Decapus
Demon (Bebelith, Nabassu, Retriever, Rutterkin)
Derro
Devil (Abishai – Black/Blue/Green/Red/White, Nupperibo)
“Dinosaurs” (Apatosaurus, Archelon, Compsognathus, Deinonychus, Dunkleosteus, Hadrosaurus, Icthyosaurus, Iguanodon, Kronosaurus, Ornithomimus, Pachycephalosaurus, Spinosaurus, Stegosaurus, Therizinosaurus)
Dragon, Gem (Amethyst, Crystal, Emerald, Sapphire, Topaz)
Dragonne
Eladrin (Coure, Bralani, Firre, Ghaele, Noviere, Shiere, Shiradi, Tulani)
Elder Brain
Elemental Grue (Chaggrin, Harginn, Ildriss, Varrdig)
Elf, Aquatic
Eye of Fear and Flame
Feyr (Feyr, Greater Feyr)
Firbolg
Fire Drake
Flail Snail
Formian (Worker, Warrior, Myrmarch, Taskmaster, Queen)
Froghemoth (Froghemoth, Tadhemoth)
Gnome, Spriggan
Golem (Bone, Brain, Caryatid Column, Glass, Iron Cobra, Necrophidius, Topiary, Wood)
Grig
Grippli
Guardinal (Avoral, Cervidal, Equinal, Leonal, Lupinal, Musteval, Ursinal)
Hag, Annis
Half-Demon (Alu, Draegloth, Fey’ri, Tanarukk)
Heucuva
Hybsil
Inevitable (Kolyarut, Marut, Zalakhut)
Ixitxachitl (Ixitxachitl, Vampiric Ixitxachitl)
Jermlaine
Kampfult
Korred
Lammasu
Leucrotta
Lich (Alhoon, Baelnorn)
Lillend
Lycanthropes (Foxwoman, Werebadger, Werebat, Werecrocodile, Werejaguar, Wereshark, Werespider)
Manscorpion
Mimic, House Hunter
Mongrelman
Naga (Dark, Water)
Neogi
Neothelid
Nereid
Nixie
Nymph
Paraelemental (Ice, Magma, Ooze, Smoke)
Pech
Phoenix
Plants (Basidirond, Giant Sundew, Hangman Tree, Mantrap, Stranglevine, Strangleweed, Thorny, Tri-Flower Frond)
Prehistoric Beasts (Andrewsarchus, Basilosaurus, Brontotherium, Chalicotherium, Dorudon, Glyptodon, Indricotherium, Megatherium)
Quickling
Redcap
Sandling
Shedu
Sirine
Skeleton Warrior
Sphinx (Crio, Hieraco)
Su Monster
Sylph
Tabaxi
Tasloi
Tentamort
Triton
Vargouille
Vegepygmy
Verbeeg
Voadkyn
Wemic
Wolfwere
Xag-Ya/Xeg-Yi
Yellow Musk Creeper (Creeper, Zombie)
Yugoloth (Canoloth, Dergholoth, Gacholoth, Hydroloth, Piscoloth, Yagnoloth)

Appendix Entries
Cat, Winged
Cave Cricket
Cave Moray
Cooshee (Elven Dog)
Fire Bat
Giant Bee (Worker, Soldier, Queen)
Giant Beetle (Bombardier, Stag, Water)
Giant Mantis
Giant Snake, Amphisbaena
Hippocampus

I'll add:

Bladeling
Dragon, Chromatic: Brown, Gray, Purple
Dragon, Metallic: Cobalt, Iron, Orium.
Elemental Myrmidon (the 4e archons)
Vryloka
 

doctorhook

Adventurer
I agree with, oh, 95% of your list. Well done. :)

I don't ever want to see gem dragons back, though. I'd much rather the catastrophic and plague dragons from 4E.
No love for psionic dragon, eh Ari? I say let's have 'em all!

@Jargogle: Great list!
[MENTION=6672108]rjfTrebor[/MENTION]: I second the balhannoth! I love the idea of this monster.
 


Nice list so far - a few that I'd add:

Ant Lion
Assassin Vine
Babau
Choker
Dracolisk
Green Slime
Grues
Ironmaw
Jann

And then Giant Ants in the appendix I guess.

Not to mention that any edition that's lacking the Rot Grub, Ear Seeker and Throat Leech isn't REAL D&D!!1!

... I was going to type "/ragequit", but it was simply too stupid to go through with. Forgive me.
 

Dausuul

Legend
I agree with, oh, 95% of your list. Well done. :)

I don't ever want to see gem dragons back, though. I'd much rather the catastrophic and plague dragons from 4E.
I concur. Excellent list; swap out gem dragons for a couple of demon lords and archdevils, throw in Sons of Kyuss, and it's perfect.
 

trentonjoe

Explorer
Dark Creeper
Small Humanoid (underdark) , NE
Armor Class 16 (Rag Armor +2, Dex +4)
Hit Points 13 (3d6+3)
Speed 25 ft.
STR
DEX
CON
INT
WIS
CHA
8 (-1)
18 (+0)
12 (+0)
8 (-1)
12 (+1)
8 (-1)
Saving Throws:
Skills Stealth +7, Sleight of Hand +7
Senses Darkvision 60 ft (see below)., passive Perception 11
Damage Vulnerabilities Sunlight (see below)
Damage Resistances Resistance
Damage Immunities Immunity
Condition Immunities Immunity
Languages Common
Challenge 1 (200 XP)
Superior Dark Vision. Dark Creepers can see in magical darkness out to 30’.

Sunlight Vulnerability. Dark Creepers have disadvantage on all attack rolls, saving throws, and ability checks when in direct sunlight.

Sneak Attack:. If the Dark Creeper has advantages on its attack the target takes an extra 7 (2d6) damage from the attack on one attack per round.


ACTIONS
Dagger. Melee (or range) Weapon Attack: +6 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 6 (1d4+4) piercing damage.

Cunning Action: You can take a bonus action on each of your turns in combat. This action can be used only to take the Dash, Disengage, or Hide action.

Extinguish Flame: As a bonus action, Dark Creepers can extinguish any mundane light source or magical light created by a 1st level spell or cantrip
 

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