Mythological Figures: Conan the Barbarian (5E)

WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE? Click here to find out! This week's Mythological Figure is one sure to generate a lot of discussion, as we delve into Conan the Barbabarian!

WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE? Click here to find out! This week's Mythological Figure is one sure to generate a lot of discussion, as we delve into Conan the Barbabarian!



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If by some strange chance you are not already familiar with this wildly popular character my first recommendation is to check out any of the Conan the Barbarian films (starring Arnold Schwarzenegger), but there’s also a Conan RPG from Modiphius and a relatively recent Conan video game. I’m not going to summarize his history -- as far as I’m able to tell there are at least 13 different public domain works featuring Conan.

If you read this column for the context this just isn’t your week but for the stat junkies, behold!

Design Notes: Conan here is one of the most hotly contested character builds for fantasy RPGs. It’s opinions, @$$#%^&$, and Conan builds out here: everybody has one. At one point or another I ran across a rationale I thought was pretty good and made a comment in my working document about it. If you are the person who posted this on Facebook or elsewhere on EN World or wherever it is I saw it, thank you:

“First thing - no more than 1 level of Barbarian class. Barbarians from Hyboria aren't D&D Barbarians. You just need it to reflect that he was formidabble even without any armour. So Barbarian 1 and no more. Second thing - Ranger 1. Conan was good tracker and knew how to take care of himself in the wilderness, his favoured enemies should be humans and human-abomination hybrids. Third - Rouge 3 with Thief Roguish Archetype. He spent a lot of time as ordinary thief. Rest should go to Fighter with Champion as Martial Archetype as Conan was more interested in crushing his enemies (and seeing them driven before him) as quickly and effectively as possible.”

For his Challenge Rating I erred on the side of caution and rounded up to 9 because he’s got a ton of features, can leap like a monster, and has incredible mobility (and if you are going to cry fowl about needing a higher Strength or Constitution, drop Mobility and increase one or the other by +2).



Conan the Barbarian
Medium humanoid (human), neutral barbarian 1/ranger 1/rogue (thief) 3/fighter 11 (champion)

Armor Class
14 (hide)
Hit Points 118 (1d12+12d10+3d8+32)
Speed 40 ft.

STR
DEX
CON
INT
WIS
CHA
18 (+4)​
14 (+2)​
14 (+2)​
12 (+1)​
13 (+1)​
10 (+0)​

Saving Throws
Str +9, Con +7
Skills Athletics +14, Intimidation +5, Sleight of Hand +7, Stealth +12, Survival +6; disguise kit +5, thieves’ tools +5
Senses passive Perception 11
Languages Common, Thieves’ Cant
Challenge 9 (5,000 XP)

Background: Guttersnipe - Urban Knowledge. Conan and his allies (while outside of combat) move at double their normal speed when traveling between two locations in the same city.

Action Surge (1/Short Rest). Once on his turn, Conan can take an additional action on top of his regular action and a possible bonus action.

Cunning Action (1/Turn). Conan can take a bonus action to take the Dash, Disengage, Hide or Use Object action, Dexterity (Sleight of Hand) check, or to use thieves’ tools to disarm a trap or open a lock.

Favored Enemy. Conan has advantage on Wisdom (Survival) checks to track humans and human-abomination hybrids, as well as on Intelligence checks to recall information about them.

Feat: Mobile. Conan can Dash through difficult terrain without requiring additional movement. Whenever he makes an attack against a creature, he doesn’t provoke opportunity attacks from that creature until the end of his turn.

Feat: Power Attack. When Conan makes his first melee weapon attack in a turn, he can choose to take a -5 penalty to his melee weapon attack rolls in exchange for a +10 bonus to melee weapon damage. In addition, Conan can use a bonus action to make one melee weapon attack after he uses a melee weapon to reduce a creature to 0 hit points or scores a critical hit with it. Conan can only use this feature on his turn.

Fighting Style: Great Weapon Fighting. When Conan rolls a 1 or 2 on a damage die for an attack he makes with a melee weapon that he is wielding with two hands, he can reroll the die and must use the new roll, even if the new roll is a 1 or a 2. The weapon must have the two-handed or versatile property for Conan to gain this benefit.

Indomitable (1/Long Rest). Conan can reroll a saving throw that he fails but must use the new roll.

Natural Explorer: Mountains. When Conan makes an Intelligence or Wisdom check related to the forest, his proficiency bonus (+5) is doubled if he is using a skill that he’s proficient in. While traveling for an hour or more in his favored terrain, Conan gains the following benefits:

  • Difficult terrain doesn’t slow his group’s travel.
  • Conan’s group can’t become lost except by magical means.
  • Even when he is engaged in another activity while traveling (such as foraging, navigating, or tracking), Conan remains alert to danger.
  • If Conan is traveling alone, he can move stealthily at a normal pace.
  • When he forages, Conan finds twice as much food as he normally would.
  • While tracking other creatures, Conan also learns their exact number, their sizes, and how long ago they passed through the area.

Rage (2/Long Rest). On his turn, Conan can enter a rage as a bonus action. His rage lasts for 1 minute, ending early if he is knocked unconscious or if his turn ends and he hasn’t either attacked a hostile creature since his last turn or taken damage since then. Conan can also end his rage on his turn as a bonus action. While raging, he gains the following benefits.

  • Conan has advantage on Strength checks and Strength saving throws.
  • When Conan makes a melee weapon attack using Strength, he deals 2 extra damage.
  • Conan has resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage.

Remarkable Athlete. Conan adds +2 to any Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution check he makes that doesn’t already use his proficiency bonus. In addition, when he makes a running long jump, the distance he can cover increases by 4 feet.

Second-Story Work. Climbing does not cost Conan extra movement. When he makes a running jump, the distance he covers increases by 2 feet (with Remarkable Athlete, 6 feet).

Second Wind (1/Short Rest). On his turn, Conan can use a bonus action to regain 1d10+11 hit points.

Sneak Attack (1/Turn). Conan deals an extra 7 (2d6) damage when he hits a target with a weapon attack and has advantage on the attack roll, or when the target is within 5 feet of an ally of Conan that isn’t incapacitated and Conan doesn’t have disadvantage on the attack roll.


ACTIONS

Multiattack. Conan attacks three times.

Greatsword. Melee Weapon Attack: +9 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 11 (2d6+4) slashing damage.

Dagger (4). Melee or Ranged Weapon Attack: +9 to hit, reach 5 ft. or range 20/60 ft., one target. Hit: 6 (1d4+4) piercing damage.

Longbow. Ranged Weapon Attack: +7 to hit, range 150/600 ft., one target. Hit: 6 (1d8+2) piercing damage.
 

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Mike Myler

Mike Myler

So while that kind of thing can be achieved with rogue levels, I think it can be achieved other ways too, without getting the baggage of Thieves' Tools proficiency which Conan never uses, and sneak attack dice, which don't apply to the kind of weapons he favors.
Why is that "baggage"? Sure, Conan favors open combat with a broadsword, but something tells me he'd be pretty freaking dangerous jumping out of the shadows with a dagger too. Sneak Attack is more than justified even if he doesn't use it all the time. He's an extreme generalist, not an optimized one-trick.
 

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Jay Verkuilen

Grand Master of Artificial Flowers
Why is that "baggage"? Sure, Conan favors open combat with a broadsword, but something tells me he'd be pretty freaking dangerous jumping out of the shadows with a dagger too. Sneak Attack is more than justified even if he doesn't use it all the time. He's an extreme generalist, not an optimized one-trick.

Conan is really good at Athletics, so much so I think Expertise is warranted and thus a few levels of Rogue, which helps round him out skill-wise. He never seems to use Thieves' Tools but I'd usually let a player trade those off for something else, so I guess that's OK. The Mariner fighting style would fit, though I am kind of leery of UA content often. I guess it depends on what unofficial content you want. The Athlete feat certainly fits him because his climbing ability is really remarkable in the stories. I agree that a bit of Sneak Attack wouldn't be out of place either. While he tends to use heavier weapons most of the time, being a little nastier at light weapons wouldn't be out of place. Also, in Hyborea it would make sense that everybody has Tavern Brawler.
 




Pauln6

Hero
Yeah it's not that it would be wrong to take a couple of levels of Rogue, it's more that you can build him several levels lower and still get the essence of the character if you go with Scout and Prodigy.
 


Yeah it's not that it would be wrong to take a couple of levels of Rogue, it's more that you can build him several levels lower and still get the essence of the character if you go with Scout and Prodigy.
Why would you want to build him several levels lower? The rogue levels aren't just a mechanical crutch -- they represent actual life experience being a rogue. He's had a lot of different experiences, ergo, he's got a lot of levels. For all that the D&D mechanics translate poorly to most fantasy books and films, they make a surprising amount of sense here.

And what do you mean Scout? The scout is a rogue subclass.
 

Jay Verkuilen

Grand Master of Artificial Flowers
Why would you want to build him several levels lower? The rogue levels aren't just a mechanical crutch -- they represent actual life experience being a rogue. He's had a lot of different experiences, ergo, he's got a lot of levels. For all that the D&D mechanics translate poorly to most fantasy books and films, they make a surprising amount of sense here.

And what do you mean Scout? The scout is a rogue subclass.

There's a UA Scout Fighter from a few years back. I don't think it fits Conan all that well, though.

I agree with your argument---Conan should have a few Rogue levels. Certainly not a ton but even two does a pretty good job of having Conan have better skills and being more mobile than your average fighter, which very much fits his idiom. He's not really a Sneak Attacker either, but just a D6 of that isn't a huge deal and could easily be absorbed into his general badassedness. About the only thing that doesn't fit with Rogue levels is Thieves' Tools; at least in my campaign I'd be willing to let a PC swap that out for an appropriate skill. I also don't see why people have this insistence on making him lower level. I think the fiction pushes him to be about 12th-14th level in his prime, at least insofar as we are able to model things like the fight with the pirates on Belit's ship fairly well when he's about there to benchmark it. Most of the slack between Conan and D&D characters comes from the fact that Conan's stats are absolutely stacked so the standard point buy system doesn't really fly.
 

Pauln6

Hero
Why would you want to build him several levels lower? The rogue levels aren't just a mechanical crutch -- they represent actual life experience being a rogue. He's had a lot of different experiences, ergo, he's got a lot of levels. For all that the D&D mechanics translate poorly to most fantasy books and films, they make a surprising amount of sense here.

And what do you mean Scout? The scout is a rogue subclass.

The Scout was also a popular Playtest Fighter subclass with wilderness skills akin to a Ranger and superiority dice that could be spent on skill checks among other things. As discussed earlier in the thread Tika Waylan was previously a multiclass thief who appears in the PHB as single classed fighter with a thiefy background. That's not to say she couldn't still be built as a multiclass Rogue - she uses a short sword so it would be even more beneficial to her than Conan but the point is there are several ways to reach a similar result. Choose your favourite.

As for Conan's level, that's just a matter of interpretation. All I meant was, you can get to three attacks and one level of Barbarian by level 12 to get the basic bones of the character.
 

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