jdavis
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Gee look who may be laying the smack down on Attuma in the near future.....
http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/article.php?news_id=4472
http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/article.php?news_id=4472
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Namor casting news
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Ranger REG
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I must confessed, Prince Namor -- Sub-Mariner -- isn't really one of my favorite Marvel character (I preferred DC Aquaman BEFORE he lost his hand). So how does one depict this figure?
I mean for Spider-Man we pretty much know him as the kid turned into an adult with a lot of responsibilities but always managed to have normal problems (girls, paying rent, etc.). In a way, he's more relatable.
So what's the appeal of Namor? He's a noble, ruler of Atlantis and hates us landlubbers in general.
I mean for Spider-Man we pretty much know him as the kid turned into an adult with a lot of responsibilities but always managed to have normal problems (girls, paying rent, etc.). In a way, he's more relatable.
So what's the appeal of Namor? He's a noble, ruler of Atlantis and hates us landlubbers in general.
Brother Shatterstone
Dark Moderator of PbP
There is none... Marvel doesn't even know what to do with him as he's gone from hero to villain and back again over his lifetime. His only claim to fame is the fact that he's an old character. What their might be 4 or 5 other super heroes older than him?Ranger REG said:
I guess we get to see if the Rock can do the Peoples' eyebrow threw a whole movie...
Silver Moon
Adventurer
Ah, Subby....let's see...(brace yourself - history lesson with editorial comments to follow)
The Timely/Atlas run of "Sub-Mariner Comics" began in 1941, with so-so sales. Title changed to "True Crime Comics" with issue #24, and "Amazing Mysteries" with issue #32 in 1949, which ended the initial run. It brought back five years later with issue #33 for short run of less than two years, ending with issue #55. Several of these older talkes have been repirinted. They are okay, but nothing to write home about. Sort of an Aquaman-wannabe.
The character was brought back in 1962 by Stan Lee in the now classic Fantastic Four #4. Showed up in the FF's book a couple of times each year, with cross-overs in other Marvel books as well, until Tales to Astonish #70 in 1965, where Subby was half the book (the Hulk being the other half). These issues were THE BEST SUBBY STORIES EVER! Gene Colan's art was fantastic, and the character took on a regal fantasy-kingdom setting. The half-issue story length helped rather than hurt.
Then in 1968 they screwed it up by giving both Hulk and Subby their own books. Gene Colan left, and the book fell into mediocrity, with very forgetable stories. Then with issue #50 it was resurrected when original Subby creator Bill Everett came onto the book. It took on a nostalgic 1940's feel to it, which was a sharp contrast to the other Marvel books of the 70's. Everett died while penning issue #61, and nobody was able to do anything with the book after that. They even attempted to give him a new costume, which was awful, and the book itself died with issue #72 in 1974.
A year later Marvel launched "Super-Villain Team-up" staring Doctor Doom and the Sub-Mariner, which thankfully only lasted for 17 issues. One main problem with this book is the fact that for the previous decade Subby had been presented as a hero rather than villain. In fact, he was a hero in the simultaneous-running WWII "Invaders" book. Marvel eventually recognized that fact, dropping Subby from the title and teaming Doc Doom up with real villains like Magneto and the Red Scull, but by then the book was already dead. In 1990 John Byrne decided to take his crack at this misunderstood character, with the launch of "Namor". Byrne stuck around for a couple of years and took a whole new take on the character, actually making him interesting. After he left Jea Lee came onboard, and the book took a preachy "Environmentalist" tone to it. The book eventually died with issue #62 in 1995.
In the eight years since then he has made cameo appearances and had a short mini-series. He's been a part of several teams, The Defenders being the main one, although he has also joined both the Fantastic Four and Avengers for short, forgetable runs.
Of course the main advantage to bringing this Grade B character to the silver screen is that they can make some radical changes and not get everyone into a uproar. Think Blade, who was a Grade C Marvel character, and is now getting a third film. I think the Rock is a great casting choice, better than Nick Cage who was originally being considered for the part.
The Timely/Atlas run of "Sub-Mariner Comics" began in 1941, with so-so sales. Title changed to "True Crime Comics" with issue #24, and "Amazing Mysteries" with issue #32 in 1949, which ended the initial run. It brought back five years later with issue #33 for short run of less than two years, ending with issue #55. Several of these older talkes have been repirinted. They are okay, but nothing to write home about. Sort of an Aquaman-wannabe.
The character was brought back in 1962 by Stan Lee in the now classic Fantastic Four #4. Showed up in the FF's book a couple of times each year, with cross-overs in other Marvel books as well, until Tales to Astonish #70 in 1965, where Subby was half the book (the Hulk being the other half). These issues were THE BEST SUBBY STORIES EVER! Gene Colan's art was fantastic, and the character took on a regal fantasy-kingdom setting. The half-issue story length helped rather than hurt.
Then in 1968 they screwed it up by giving both Hulk and Subby their own books. Gene Colan left, and the book fell into mediocrity, with very forgetable stories. Then with issue #50 it was resurrected when original Subby creator Bill Everett came onto the book. It took on a nostalgic 1940's feel to it, which was a sharp contrast to the other Marvel books of the 70's. Everett died while penning issue #61, and nobody was able to do anything with the book after that. They even attempted to give him a new costume, which was awful, and the book itself died with issue #72 in 1974.
A year later Marvel launched "Super-Villain Team-up" staring Doctor Doom and the Sub-Mariner, which thankfully only lasted for 17 issues. One main problem with this book is the fact that for the previous decade Subby had been presented as a hero rather than villain. In fact, he was a hero in the simultaneous-running WWII "Invaders" book. Marvel eventually recognized that fact, dropping Subby from the title and teaming Doc Doom up with real villains like Magneto and the Red Scull, but by then the book was already dead. In 1990 John Byrne decided to take his crack at this misunderstood character, with the launch of "Namor". Byrne stuck around for a couple of years and took a whole new take on the character, actually making him interesting. After he left Jea Lee came onboard, and the book took a preachy "Environmentalist" tone to it. The book eventually died with issue #62 in 1995.
In the eight years since then he has made cameo appearances and had a short mini-series. He's been a part of several teams, The Defenders being the main one, although he has also joined both the Fantastic Four and Avengers for short, forgetable runs.
Of course the main advantage to bringing this Grade B character to the silver screen is that they can make some radical changes and not get everyone into a uproar. Think Blade, who was a Grade C Marvel character, and is now getting a third film. I think the Rock is a great casting choice, better than Nick Cage who was originally being considered for the part.
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Brother Shatterstone
Dark Moderator of PbP
Silver Moon said:
You know I agree, perfect eyebrows, attitude, etc.
But one thing bugs me and who could ever imagine someone saying it about a "superhero" movie.... Isn't the rock a little to big? I've always seen Namor with a swimmers build, imagine that, and the rock doesn't have one of those...
All in all a good casting though.
Brother Shatterstone said:
Well, yes and no. Namor is usually drawn with a "swimmer's build", true. However, in the comics the character has strength to rival that of The Thing of the Fantastic Four, wo is usually ranked just short of the Hulk. People who are very used to comics don't have too much problem with a smaller man able to juggle Buicks without breaking a sweat, but if they want to depict that strength in a movie, having a huge man wouldn't be amiss.
reapersaurus
Explorer
wow - I'd never have thought of it.
Good call, I think.
Of course, a Namor film is just a BAD idea...
Good call, I think.
Of course, a Namor film is just a BAD idea...
blackshirt5
First Post
The only good that could come of bringing Namor to the screen would be that they could also bring Namor's SISTER to the screen.
blackshirt5 said:
I think Namorita is his cousin, not his sister.
Brother Shatterstone said:
You know, after thinking about it, I'll disagree. The Rock doesn't have the right attitude. When the writing was at it's best, Namor was regal. The Rock is many things, but regal is not one of them.
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