Need a little help finding a rule

[No Name]

Some time ago, I remember reading that a lower + weapon couldn't sunder a higher + weapon (ie. +2 can't sunder a +3 or higher). Then I find a post on this board which says that rule has been errata'd out. It's all about hardness and hit points now, the old rule no longer applies.

So I search through the errata and can't find the info. Thinking that I might be looking through the wrong errata, I read through the core books to find the old rule. I can't even find that now.

I'm beginning to wonder if I actually read that stuff to begin with. Maybe I'm losing it...

 

[Lord Wyrm]

Had that back in 2ed if I remember correctly.

 

[KarinsDad]

The DMG errata now states that each +1 of a weapon (or shield) adds 2 to hardness and 10 to hit points.

So, it would be difficult to sunder a more powerful weapon or shield, but it is possible, especially with multiple Sunder attempts.

 

[isoChron]

That rule was used in 3.0. Wasn't that good so they changed it in 3.5.

 

[frankthedm]

That rule was used in 3.0. Wasn't that good so they changed it in 3.5.

It snuck into 3.5 due to a copy and paste error witht the DMG, but was eventuall corrected. Much to the chagrin of players with +1 flaming burst, icy burst, shocking burst keen rapiers...

 

[No Name]

Thanks!

You guys are pure genius.

The top of page 222 in the 3.5 DMG, in the Hardness and Hit Points section, is where it's at. That also explains why I couldn't find it a second time. I actually bought (yeah, I'm a sucker, but it looks cool) the leather bound DMG. The leather bound version has completely different info.

All it took was a minute looking through the old DMG. It all makes sense now.