Need Ideas for new PrC: The Wrestler

[Gunslinger]

I need some ideas for making a PrC based on grappling. Ideas so far: giving him weapon focus:grapple(if he already has it he gets an extra +1), something that lets him reroll a failed grapple check a certain # of times per day, allowing him to keep his dex during a grapple, and at 10th level making him count as 1 size higher for the purposes of grapple checks. Any and all ideas are welcome.

 

[Crothian]

Increased damage while grappling, ability to escape other people's grapple

 

[Tonguez]

A system of rules for Locks, Strikes, Throws and Blocks

 

[Gunslinger]

A system of rules for Locks, Strikes, Throws and Blocks

It would be really cool to add more options to grappling, but that sounds like a whole lot more work than I originally envisioned making this PrC to be. Maybe I could work on that as a long term project, probably followed by more grappling based PrCs...

 

[wolff96]

I would require Improved Unarmed Strike for such a class. I'd also require, say, 5 ranks in Escape Artist.

For powers, I would probably grant Weapon Focus: Grapple, Improved Grab (from OA, negates AoO when starting grapple), and add a scaling bonus to Escape Artist checks to get loose from another's grapple. Then at around eighth level, I would boost their size category, as you mention.

My 10th level ability, though, would be to give the Grappler an ability that allowed them to use a -3 iterative on their BAB (like a monk, capped at five attacks per round) while grappling.

Sounds like a caster-killer class to me.

 

[Tetsubo]

Check out the Quintessential Monk for inspiration.

 

[Jolly Giant]

You could also check out my sumo-wrestler Prc!

 

[Gunslinger]

You could also check out my sumo-wrestler Prc!

Cool. I like "grapple expert", and I'll take a few other things into consideration. If I do end up using any of it, I'll be sure to give you credit.

 

[Jolly Giant]

Just as long as you mail me a copy of the Wrestler when you're done, Gunslinger...

 

[reapersaurus]

I've already done a lot of research exactly for this purpose (a Grappling PrC).

Here's some work: http://tech.nhsacramento.com/jwarner/grappling.htm
and http://tech.nhsacramento.com/jwarner/mighty_contender.htm uses them in a Prestige Class.

Most of those grappling feats are a collection of (IMO) the best grappling ideas I've collected from others on these boards over almost 2 years.

The Sumo has some good ideas, but... I don't know.
Collectively, it doesn't quite 'work' for me.
Maybe he should get his CON bonus as a bonus to AC (like the Forsaker), since his AC is going to be SO bad otherwise.

And the Engulf and Pounce are a good start at making specialized, custom grappling abilities.
Unless you do that for a Grappling PrC, you are only using the rules as written (and the rules as written are a good start, but don't nearly go far enough for a Grappling PrC)

I really like the flavor of the class, and the names are hilarious.

I'd suggest looking closely at Oriental Adventures for Grappling ideas - their Improved Grapple is probably a better fit than your Improved Grab.

Actually, looking back, I think the Sumo is a workable class, probably does what it wants to accomplish, but I think doesn't go far enough with custom grappling rules to make the disadvantages and requirements of the class pay off.

Good job, overall :thumbsup: