D&D (2024) New Jeremy Crawford Interviews

[Oofta]

Entirely possible. 6e might have been even more obviously a game I did not like, like 4e before it. Also like 4e, however, I would have respected it and the company that made it a lot more than I do currently.

For better or worse getting "respect" from someone who doesn't make a purchase doesn't keep the lights on. It sounds like there's minimal chance you would have purchased the books no matter what so at a certain point they aren't going to try.

You can't please everyone and if you try you frequently end up pleasing no one.

 

[Scott Christian]

they also said to use the 2024 version when there is one and the 2014 only if there is not. If your DM does that, then this problem does not pop up. If they do not, they only have themselves to blame (and chances are they knew the 2014 Paladin already, so should now not be surprised…)

I stand corrected. I did not hear them say that. Of course, that might influence some about what actually is backwards compatible.

 

[Scott Christian]

I am not sure that this is what gets people to buy the books at all… I can see a small minority getting them for this, but ‘a great many’ not so much. What is this expectation based on?

That's a fair take. Probably just me not choosing my words carefully enough. I can say, in my experience, that when players are given a choice and explained which ability is more useful, therefore making it more powerful mechanically, they almost always choose the useful one. But that is just my experience. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Scott Christian]

it is not intended to be a choice… the choice was to stick with 2014 or use the 2024 version, not to decide for every single detail individually

Huh? To say that, wouldn't that be questioning the backwards compatibility of the 2024 rules?

 

[Oofta]

Good for you. Do you think other 2014 paladin players should fall in line behind you?

I think it should be a discussion with the DM and the group. WotC can make recommendations, individuals make decisions.

 

[Scott Christian]

eh, a handful of people who use every excuse to bash WotC feels more like it. Anyone who listened to what WotC said should not be surprised by any of this

We'll have to wait and see how it's worded in the PHB. I mean, I am truly curious. Saying players should listen to their videos in order to know what to use and not use seems a stretch.

 

[Scott Christian]

because the group moved to the 2024 rules. There is no discussion to be had, if WotC errataed this then there would not be a discussion either

If a player absolutely insisted then I would have them stay completely with the 2014 ruleset, no weapon masteries, none of the other tweaks. Not sure they would actually be any better off than the 2024 paladin, they certainly would be a lot less flexible

The discussion is about backwards compatibility. If you, as DM, have to insist they use the 2014 ruleset with their paladin, then that means characters can't just "port to the new edition without missing a hitch."

 

[Micah Sweet]

For better or worse getting "respect" from someone who doesn't make a purchase doesn't keep the lights on. It sounds like there's minimal chance you would have purchased the books no matter what so at a certain point they aren't going to try.

You can't please everyone and if you try you frequently end up pleasing no one.

Your, "WotC is just trying to keep the lights on" argument continues to not impress me. I know for a fact that there are plenty of people here at least who would have loved to see WotC make a legit new edition that actually fixed core issues. This isn't about me, even though I of course have a personal opinion.

Who's to say if a new design that tackled the problems of the previous one wouldn't have been enough to "keep the lights on" (I really hate that phrase in association with a huge corporation)? There's no way to know.

 

[mellored]

Your, "WotC is just trying to keep the lights on" argument continues to not impress me. I know for a fact that there are plenty of people here at least who would have loved to see WotC make a legit new edition that actually fixed core issues.

5e is the best selling version of D&D by far. And campaigns like Curse of Strad are still selling well.

They don't want to screw that up.

So they fixed what they could without messing things up.

And yea, that means some underlying issues (like ability score / ability bonus) are not getting fixed.

 

[mamba]

I can say, in my experience, that when players are given a choice and explained which ability is more useful, therefore making it more powerful mechanically, they almost always choose the useful one.

if you can pick and choose every skill / spell individually, sure, go for the strongest version. If you have to choose between the 2014 or the 2024 paladin as a whole, I am not sure the 2014 one wins a lot of the votes