D&D (2024) New stealth rules.

[Argyle King]

Hiding isnt an ongoing action.

However, if a character successfully hides in one location, but then moves to a different location, it makes sense to need to try hide again.

They've already gained the invisible condition with the first hide.

It would make sense to me to extrapolate that the character only be Invisible in relation to the target against which they were attempting to hide, but that would also be a houserule and not something currently supported by the text.

 

[mamba]

If a player insisted upon attempting it by jumping off of an airship or jumping from the top of a mountain peak or whatever, I would advise against it but would -if they insisted- allow them to attempt it.

After that, hopefully they have feather fall.

agreed, it is not the job of the DM to prevent players from trying, it is to prevent their chars from succeeding at things like this

 

[mamba]

So, you would have them automatically fail without the roll on this. But you would allow them to automatically succeed on hiding from someone they are staring in the eyes?

while being invisible… they certainly do not fail automatically

 

[mamba]

Hiding isnt an ongoing action.

However, if a character successfully hides in one location, but then moves to a different location, it makes sense to need to try hide again.

only if they do not remain hidden / invisible along the way, and we have conditions for that

 

[OB1]

It feels so right that new Stealth rules have a 1000+ comment page. It's almost like it's a design goal with D&D to give us something to argue about

 

[Yaarel]

They've already gained the invisible condition with the first hide.

It would make sense to me to extrapolate that the character only be Invisible in relation to the target against which they were attempting to hide, but that would also be a houserule and not something currently supported by the text.

In relation to the environment that they are adapting to to Hide in.

When their environment changes, they may need to make a new check for the new environment.

 

[mamba]

It feels so right that new Stealth rules have a 1000+ comment page. It's almost like it's a design goal with D&D to give us something to argue about

I mean, they don’t want us to see the books, so we have to take what we get

 

[Argyle King]

In relation to the environment that they are adapting to to Hide in.

When their environment changes, they may need to make a new check for the new environment.

That would make sense to me, and I think that would be a reasonable thing to have mentioned when writing the rules.

Maybe the DMG will include more information.

 

[Yaarel]

That would make sense to me, and I think that would be a reasonable thing to have mentioned when writing the rules.

Maybe the DMG will include more information.

The Invisible condition is the correct approach, and simplifies many variables.

Probably it is the Hide action and the Invisibility spell that need to clarify how one maintains the condition.

 

[OB1]

The Invisible condition is the correct approach, and simplifies many variables.

Probably it is the Hide action and the Invisibility spell that need to clarify how one maintains the condition.

Yeah, might be too much reliance on natural language. If I say I hide behind the dresser, and then I move from behind the dresser, I'm no longer hiding behind the dresser, and wouldn't expect to still be considered hiding there.

If I want to sneak past the guards, that's something else. I'm not trying to 'hide' past the guards. Hiding in general suggests staying in one place. Sneaking or Stealthing implies movement.