No it doesn't: the Invisibility granted by the Hide action is conditional on not making a noise louder than a whisper. It's incredibly fragile. You basically can't maintain it without deliberately creeping around. The Invisibility from the spell still works even if you stomp around the dungeon and get in the guard's faces.
Even running. You are massively underestimating how loud someone wearing studded leather and carrying a load of weapons actually moves if they're not trying to do so silently. I believe the "louder than a whisper" clause is basically saying you can't just wander around freely being invisible because you ducked behind a bush. You have to justify how you're staying unnoticed. And in most cases, the moment you stand up and take a step, you're probably making too much noise. I agree it would be better if they just said that, but again, I think the idea is to let the player get advantage if they take the trouble to Hide and not have the DM keep track of who can see whom.
I’m talking about the benefits of having the condition. Assuming you can move quietly, you can indeed come out from behind cover and stand right in front of your enemy’s face with the invisibility from the hide action. Either that or you can’t come out of cover and stand right in front of your enemy’s face with the invisibility from the invisibility spell. Granted, you can be as loud as you want with the latter, but that’s not the part anyone is objecting to. It’s the lack of visibility that’s a problem, not the requirement for near-silence.
You seem to be hinging a lot on non verbal noises louder than a whisper stopping this. But different DMs are going to be all over the map with that. And I really don’t think a defacing ruling saying anytime you hide and don’t act sneaky you make a noise louder than a whisper is going to be a common or obvious ruling.
Right. But what are the benefits of the condition? This is what I said earlier about people getting into the weeds with a precise definition of the Hide action, but taking a vibes-based approach to the Invisibility condition.
What's the not-louder-than-a-whisper limitation for then? It's true that if you simply assume everyone is gliding around on greased wheels and making no noise when they draw weapons or discuss plans or stub a toe or get stabbed then, yeah, hiding behind a bush once makes you Invisible forever. But that's not what the rule says: it says, if you make basically any noise at normal volume, you stop being Invisible. You need to stay hiding.
Ok, so just to be clear, your interpretation is that the invisibility spell doesn’t affect you like slipping on the one ring would? That’s a valid reading, but I would argue it’s just as stupid as crouching behind a bush affecting you like slipping on the one ring, just from the other direction.
No, my interpretation is that the Invisible condition is not necessarily One Ring-style invisibility. It is a condition being used to describe a creature being unseen, whether by hiding out of sight or using magic. The Invisibility spell turns you invisible, One Ring-style, but the game effect of that amounts to the same thing as being in pitch darkness or successfully concealing yourself behind intervening terrain, except you don't lose it by making any noise louder than a whisper. Note that this is how it works in the 2014 rules too, just explained differently.
