New TEEN TITANS and JUSTICE LEAGUE (w/ Spoilers)

[CrusaderX]

Last night I downloaded an ep of Unlimited called "Initiation" where GA, GL, Supergirl, & Captain Atom go to China and battle some nuclear powered giant, kind of reminded me of Terminus from Marvel. Anyway, I take it that was episode #2? It was pretty cool, but I don't care much for the whole Supergirl concept. In this is she Clark's long lost Kryptonian cousin?

"Initiation" was the first JLU episode. "For the Man Who Has Everything" was the second. Next week will be the third.

It's been awhile since I saw the Supergirl episodes from Superman: The Animated Series, so I can't quite recall her origin, but I do like the character. I especially enjoyed her team-ups with Batgirl from Batman: The Animated Series.

 

[Villano]

One: I greatly dislike the fact that, after he was awakened, Supes still needed help to beat Mongul. I thought it rather weakened the whole ep, in terms of both plot and emotional satisfaction for the viewer.

But if Superman had stepped in at the end and took out Mongul by himself, that would have made Wonder Woman look bad. She spent the entire episode getting her butt kicked.

There is only one thing that bothered me about the episode...Okay, two things. First, how did Mongul know to find Superman? Does everyone know about the Fortress of Solitude?

Secondly, I had a minor problem with Batman's fantasy. I thought that

Spoiler

he should have ben the one to stop his parents' murderer, not his father. I guess I'm used to writers who've said that Bruce wishes he had stopped the killer and that his entire career as Batman figuratively trying to stop that event.

I've never read the original story, so was Batman's fantasy as protrayed in the cartoon the same as the comic?

 

[Mouseferatu]

But if Superman had stepped in at the end and took out Mongul by himself, that would have made Wonder Woman look bad. She spent the entire episode getting her butt kicked.

I don't really have a problem with that. WW's a great character. There's a lot of things she can do better than Supes. But when it comes right down to it, in terms of sheer physical might, Supes is tougher. Always has been. The whole premise behind Mongul's plan was that Superman was the only person powerful enough to stop him. I'd liked to have seen that fact play out.

 

[Nightfall]

Villano,

I think the fact is Bruce wanted something to change. It didn't necessarily have to be his father but I do believe since he saw himself as a kid, it made more sense that way.

(Spoilers aren't necessary since we have a w/Spoilers in the thread.)

Supes is indeed stronger but if you recall he took a pounding the first time he and Mongol slugged it out. So in that instance he did need a little help.

Regarding Supergirl, there have been variations but the current Supergirl was daughter of Jor'el's brother who lived on a sister planet/moon of Krypton. She too was put in a safety thingie/suspended animation. That's how I believe both Superman: TAS and the comics portrayed her "arrival."

I'm a little suprised no one is talking about Fractured. I had to get an air tank for that one. "Larry" was too damn funny but I though the voicing of Henry Rollins (of Black Flag fame) was a great guest shot and decent enough villian. While the story was a little weak concerning Robin's self-doubt, the rest of it, the breaking the finger, the gang trying to "fix" reality and Raven's sort of love for Rotten's version of reality were VERY well executed. (Oh yeah, plus the fact Larry sings along/before PuffyUmia(sp). I love those gals! )

Next week:

For the Titans, season 2 finale, part one. Aftershock should be VERY interesting indeed.

Justice League Rugrats versus Mordred? Gee you'd think Eregrin would step up here in this one. (Doubtful since he's not mentioned. But still a possibility.)

 

[Hand of Vecna]

I'm talking Real World, dude.

El as in an ancient name for God. As in Gabriel, Michael, Raphael, Uriel the Archangels, with the appelation 'el' at the end meaning "of God".

So stick that into context.

Since when does the Real World have anything to do with Comics, especially Comic Alien Naming Conventions?

It's been awhile since I saw the Supergirl episodes from Superman: The Animated Series, so I can't quite recall her origin, but I do like the character.

In the DC Animated Universe, Supergirl is Kara, last survivor of the planet Argos (sister planet to Krypton; when Krypton blew, it knocked Argos out of orbit, and most of Kara's family hid in cryostasis pods). Kal had flown out to where Krypton had been to see if there were any traces of... anything (besides Kryptonite), found Argos & Kara, revived her [hers was the only viable cryopod], brought her to earth, and he & the Kents raised her, forging for her an identity of her being Clark's cousin. On Earth, she found she had powers similar to Supermans, though her strength & invulnerability are proportionately weaker than Kal's.

As for the Supergirl of the comics.... well, there's Matrix (Linda Danvers), from an alternate Universe where Lex Luthor was the Earth's biggest hero, and a trio of Kryptonian villains [General Zod, Quex-Ul, and Zaora] escaped and went about killing everyone (including that realities Superboy) 'till 'mainstream' Supes came in (via some cajoling from Matrix) and killed them [the only time he's ever killed], and brought Matrix back to his Earth to raise her, and she later merged with some gal and they became some sort of Earth-born Angel of Fire. There's also Power Girl, who for a time believed she was Kal-El's cousin, 'till she got her real memories back from her grandfather Arion (or did she...?). Then there's Kara Zor-El, who apeared in the Batman/Superman comic, and was revealed to have been a 'passenger' inside a ginormous Kryptonite meteor that was headed for Earth; she's the daughter of Zor-El, brother of Jor-El, father of Kal-El, and is thus Superman's cousin.... or so it seems. Se's got all of Supes's powers, and apparently his weakness to K-rock as well. She also appears to've recently been brainwashed by Darkseid.

Oh, and I think next week's JLU is the one with Hawk & Dove (and WW and Hades), not the one where the JLU gets turned into kids.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Damn this show makes me wish I had cable TV!

Can anyone give me the whole roster of JLU?

 

[Fiery James]

Anyone know when/where JLU is going to start airing in Canada? Does YTV have it on their fall schedule?

Thanks!

- JB

 

[MulhorandSage]

YTV will start airing it at 9 pm on Friday September 10

http://www.corusent.com/corporate/press_room/pressReleaseDetail.asp?id=669

 

[Nightfall]

Vecna,

Nope. According to the latest CN schedule, (www.cartoonnetwork.com) JLU is the Kids one. The Hawk and Dove one is next week.

(Don't ask. CN has a wonky schedule for a lot of its shows. At least they aren't futzing with the last three Teen Titans.)

 

[Hand of Vecna]

Hrm.... I blame Larry.