News Reporting Poll, Take 2

[dema]

Mixed Messages

When i first read things here, after the news reporting change, I was wondering what happened to Morrus. He seems kinda mean, and rough ( I like that sometimes though.) And I felt offended by some of the editorial style comments (actually I think I was just caught very off guard.)

The old news was easier to read, and scan through, but wasn't as fun. I got used to the person Morrus is now, and find things less offensive.

If writing like this, and putting editorial style reports will keep "you" interested, then hell do it. I'd rather have this site in its current form than not at all.

Some think it's cool that your personality shines through now, and it might take me some time to adjust. This is funny coming from me, who is a very vulgar, and cuss word person, who is blunt, evil, sadistic, but overall the nicest person you can find anywhere, with a heart of gold.

But personality matters, and your personality does give this website character. Take it for what it's worth. And thank you for sticking it though.

good luck finding that balance, it might take a while.

-dem

 

[jollyninja]

whatever it takes to keep the site up man, i do not know what i'd do without it. i like it! it's less robotic. i have the time to wade through it and find what i'm looking for. And most of the time it's an enjoyable read. less like a CNN for DnD, more like a fan site done by a guy with personal rapor with the people who create the thing the site is dedicated to.

 

[Morrus]

Re: Mixed Messages

When i first read things here, after the news reporting change, I was wondering what happened to Morrus. He seems kinda mean, and rough ( I like that sometimes though.) And I felt offended by some of the editorial style comments (actually I think I was just caught very off guard.)

Really? Eeek! I like to have a bit of fun, but I don't want to be mean to anybody.

 

[Morrus]

Re: What's the point?

Harder to read news and collect information, which is purportedly the main reason for the site. I like Morrus, and I like his (your) filtering of the crap from the good stuff, but I don't want to wade through prose about his (your) Creature Counter or how great it is to talk to someone from some company to get that news.

Easy-to-find information with a link to an editorial or "gossip" column featuring his (your) views would be great. Frankly, I'd probably read it - but on nights when I have only a few minutes to scan and read one item of interest, those few minutes are spent reading the news page to find that information... which I no longer have time to read.

Yes, I'm about ready to find a new source for that information. No, I don't know what I'll do, but I have tested it and it's easier to scan the top pages of a few sites (Monte, Wizards, SKR's, a few RPG sites) and find one item of interest than it is to read the main news page at ENWorld now.

- Ketjak

I think that the sort of site you're looking for is http://www.gamingreport.com - check it out, you'll probably find it to your liking. They present headlines linked to news articles.

I'm not sure I want to have the sort of site that someone just glances at. I'd prefer to have the sort of site that people spend some time at.

 

[android]

I think you've come up with a good median ground by adding in the horizontal rules and putting in some more bulleted lists. Overall, i'd say you did a very good job listening to my suggestions from the first post. I'm just glad I could have such an impact on ENWorld!!

All thank you notes can be addressed to me, all complaints still, of course, go to Morrus.

 

[Ring Wraith]

I still prefer the old page. It seemed more organized and segmented for an easy find of the info you want. Now I must say that this is still the best D20 page around. Maybe some kind of compromise between old and new style?

 

[Ketjak]

Re: Re: What's the point?

I'm not sure I want to have the sort of site that someone just glances at. I'd prefer to have the sort of site that people spend some time at.

Thanks for the link.

I think I didn't make my point clearly enough, since we agree but it doesn't feel that way; I used this site to find all the information I want to read about, then participate in the polls and participate in the message board. It's called, in short, my "community."

By changing the way the news is presented, I - and some of the people posting in this thread - find it harder to collect that information. Now instead of having the main ENWorld page open as my first browser window, I have several... which reduces the time I spend and the likelihood I will spend time reading and, admittedly occasionally, posting to the message boards.

In short I'm drifting away from the community I've found comfortable for the past two years or so.

Do I like that? No.

Do you have to change to suit my needs? No.

Do I think there's a way to present your content in a format that meets both of our needs? Yes.

I'm not alone, Morrus - other people are making the same points I am, albeit a minority of us. What's frustrating to me is that you can satisfy the people who like the new content and the people who want the old format, or you can leave the site more difficult for the "newsies" to use and enjoy. In the end, that's your choice, right?

- Ketjak

 

[Ketjak]

Re: Re: Re: What's the point?

Discussion about news format snipped.

- Ketjak

I haven't even touched upon the "WotC product schedule" and "upcoming D20 products" lists, each of which leads to a reviews page. The old site format had the upcoming products in a sidebar; the new site has links to your product catalog and the other information - the stuff that those links are supposed to lead to - is lost.

Oi, that's annoying. I expect it from the WotC or Monte's site, not a community site. It's like Dragon doing a Forgotten Realms special when the FRCS came out.

To be honest I was going to get a membership, but I knew this change was bad for me. I figure within months I'd have paid a membership to a site I no longer visit, a lot like my subscription to Dragon paid for issues I got little to no value from.

- Ketjak

 

[Cardinal Aidan]

I much prefer the new style. Much more of a D20 blog now. I was tempted to start one recently, but I much prefer the way Morrus did it.

 

[Blacksway]

I prefer the new format I think, feels more like you're talking to us than just listing stuff...

... but can you bring the old icons back so we can tell which section is which perhaps?