NFL - Week 2

[Laurel]

Actually I'm a Packers fan too... The Wild Card last year was tough on me since they are my two favorite teams... I just think Seattle is a team that is using the lost tradition of making the various upward jumps in record and then breakthru... Nowadays the NFL is a last to first or vice versa league...

Seattle's big downside was the ability to win on the road... check... their other big sticking point was defense... sure looks better over 2 games... check... the offense can run with anyone...

Point taken earlier about the Pats... until someone beats them in the playoffs its theirs to lose... But I think someone will find a way... My Preseason prediction of Colts and Seahawks stands...

[until later in the year when I try to slide out from under it if need be ]

I will agree the Seahawks are a definite force this year, now to see how far they take it!

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

I will agree the Seahawks are a definite force this year, now to see how far they take it!

Well it's also the Seachickens so they blow it by week 10... Either through poor play or injuries.

 

[GentleGiant]

For being the NFL prügelknabel at the moment, I think the cardinals did a fairly good job against my beloved Pats... However, I think it was mostly a combination of the heat (how can ANYONE play in those temperatures - I can only hope it's a dry heat, never been to Arizona) and the Cardinals defence. Their offence didn't really have that much to offer (oh boy, am I glad that I'm not Josh McCown, that boy looked scared like a lamb being led to slaughter).

Other than that... the Bears beating the Packers... BOOYAH!!! Muahahahaha, what a sweet victory

Unfortunately, the Broncos also lost to the Jaguars... by one measly point... that's sad, that's so sad. Oh well, they'll rise again

And just to touch on Morten Andersen and the Vikings... although he missed the 44 yards fieldgoal, he DID score from 42 yards.
Now, if only Gary Anderson would go back to his fly-fishing again, so my fellow Dane can finally get the record he deserves

 

[Maerdwyn]

Did the Colts whine and cry? I missed that. They didn't win because they aren't as well coached, and weren't as sharp in their execution.

I'm a Pats fan, but I don't think they're invulnerable - too many years as a Boston sports fan for that. But he may have been referring to quotes like these after the Pats Colts Game:

[The recent streak of Colts losses to the Patriots] have nothing to do with New England or the Patriots," Colts president Bill Polian said afterward. "We just played awful football tonight. We were fundamentally as poor as you could be. We tackled poorly, we didn't hold onto the football. We turned it over. You're not going to win in the National Football League playing that kind of football. I can't remember us playing this poorly. Maybe three years ago."

"It sucks. I wanted to make it to help Edge out, I wanted to make it to help Peyton out, I wanted to make it so we could win this game. They're clearly not a better team than us. We needed a 3-pointer to win the game, but 48 [yards is] no gimmie." - Vanderjagt

Not exactly whining and crying, I'll grant you, but not the most gracious quotes after a loss that I've ever seen either.

 

[Stone Angel]

Ahhh another Colts Pats discussion. C'mon I would love to see the Colt's beat the Pats more than anyone. They are just our team this year. In previous years it was the Dolphins, then the Titans. Now it's NE. What can you say they have no glaring holes anywhere. Maybe a little week on the deep route. But Brady is good enough to make up for that. Glassjaw, is right. It doesn't matter how you win. You just win. My dad told me that when learning to play basketball. As long as it falls through the hoop son, it counts. Yeah the Pats are a little rough early but still have enough grit to finish the job.

I didn't get to watch any football except the Colts Titans game. And can you believe it we had a defense in the second half!!!!! We were effective against the run and the pass. Pressuring the QB, while maintaining a solid "push cover" defense, I was proud. Now if we can get some consistency we will be great. Edge put up a hundo in the 2nd half alone. Now he is questionable for the packers game this Sun.

Can you believe a radio station in Nashville actually had there listeners call here in Indianapolis and prank call a radio station here about the game. Yeah would have been totally cool if they had won. So what did our station do in riposte. Called the Sonic across the street and order a ton of food and stick them with the bill.

The Seraph of Earth and Stone

 

[AGGEMAM]

Glassjaw, is right. It doesn't matter how you win. You just win. My dad told me that when learning to play basketball. As long as it falls through the hoop son, it counts.

Ok, that's about the worst piece of crap I've ever heard.

It matters how you win too.

NFL certainly knows this. I beleive that was the main reason for introducing the salary cap, because they were losing public interest in the games on account of them being uninteresting to watch if it was the same teams over and over again winning.

FIA is experiencing the same thing in Formula One. They've lost 28% of the TV viewer over the last couple of years because Michael Schumacher always wins so nobody is interested anymore.

And were would footie be today if everybody thought that.

 

[Crothian]

THe salary cap and winning are two different things. The Salary cap was to make the league more competive to give the fans a better product. Winning is what goes on in the game, obeying the rules (which salary cap is part of) and just outscoring the oppoent. It doesn't matter how the win is gotten, it goes down as a win. Win by 1 or a hundred, it doesn't matter. Win by skill or luck it doesn't matter. Sure, a team would perfer to win by a solid amount at the same time out playing their opponent, but I've never seen a team that was sorry they won and not happy for it.

 

[AGGEMAM]

What I meant Crothian was that it is to me a warped and sick way of viewing sports. It basically reads between the lines that it doesn't matter how you win as long as you win. Ie, it doesn't matter if you play dirty either.

Here's a revelation for everyone that thinks that; sport is about having fun, professional sports even more so. Although in the latter case it's about the spectators having fun. Let's face it, nowadays only a fraction of a clubs income comes from the actual fans of that club, most comes from TV. People like you and me watching a game that we have no particular interest in other than having a good time.

Do we approve of this mindset, hell no, we wanna see a good exciting game with teams that play well, and not just to win.

Let me give you an example. Greece won the Euro 2004 in footie, however they such a destructive style that nobody bothered to watch the games. Ok, take nobody with a massive grain of salt, but the number of viewers were dramatically lower than for other games.

 

[Dungannon]

Well it's also the Seachickens so they blow it by week 10... Either through poor play or injuries.

Oh ye of little faith. Granted they've only played two games, but I haven't seen a single team that is head & shoulders above the 'hawks right now. It'll come down to homefield advantage in the playoffs, whoever's home for the conference championship will win (unless it's the Eagles ).