No 4th Edition

[Ranger REG]

Some gamers wont.

However, past experience from other game companies like GURPs (4 editions in 20 years), White Wolf (4 editions in 15 years) and WOTC (a few years between 3.0 and 3.5, a similarly short turnaround between editions of Star Wars) has shown most gamers DO upgrade.

You get a few early adopters, they evangelize the system, convert some more in their local circle and then the social network tugs almost everyone else along.

You will always lose some customers, but the net result tends to be a nice profit surge to the company making the game.

It's no accident that everyone does business this way.

Unfortunately, that's true. Pissed me off that a lot of gamers think it's okay to have 3.5e in 2003 rather than 2005, and even after that, WotC keep changing the polymorph rules (back and forth and so on). Feel like I'm in a community of gullibles (along with pay-2-play MMORPGers and iPodders). :\

Go ahead, people, keep reinforcing my belief that humaniti still disappointingly suck as a whole.

If it didn't work, don't you think people would stop doing it? D&D had traditionally had about a 10 year edition cycle. But with GURPs and White Wolf proving customers were ok (as a whole) with a 4-5 year edition cycle, what are they supposed to do?

I just hope that WotC or future publisher of D&D is not going to adopt the GURPS model.

I just hope oldie and newbie D&D gamers are going to tell WotC to stop reinventing the wheel every 3 years or so.

 

[Ranger REG]

Based on the various rumors...

So, you let rumors and hearsays to make your decision, rather than evidence or confirmed truth.

You'd make a great jury foreperson.

 

[Vigilance]

Unfortunately, that's true. Pissed me off that a lot of gamers think it's okay to have 3.5e in 2003 rather than 2005, and even after that, WotC keep changing the polymorph rules (back and forth and so on). Feel like I'm in a community of gullibles (along with pay-2-play MMORPGers and iPodders). :\

Go ahead, people, keep reinforcing my belief that humaniti still disappointingly suck as a whole.


I just hope that WotC or future publisher of D&D is not going to adopt the GURPS model.

I just hope oldie and newbie D&D gamers are going to tell WotC to stop reinventing the wheel every 3 years or so.

I think it's too late to wish they weren't moving toward a GURPs model.

And again, given that gamers don't seem to have a problem upgrading every 5 years, are they supposed to be better than that and turn down the money?

I think there's a reason why all major companies use this model. When you say "it's GURPs", it's not just GURPs. Even Green Ronin did a very quick update to M&M second edition. And everyone seems to have loved the results.

 

[Cadfan]

Ranger REG: Do you have your own suit and your own crowbar?

 

[Ranger REG]

Ranger REG: Do you have your own suit and your own crowbar?

They won't issue those if I'm hired? :\

 

[Ranger REG]

And again, given that gamers don't seem to have a problem upgrading every 5 years,

That pisses me off even more. When they hell did some of these former GURPS fans migrated into our D&D community?



Bah. This is just another sign that I feel old and can't keep up with the new community of D&D gamers.

 

[Sykopup]

So, you let rumors and hearsays to make your decision, rather than evidence or confirmed truth.

You'd make a great jury foreperson.

Well, my motto is "If the glove doesn't fit, try a different glove."

 

[Vigilance]

That pisses me off even more. When they hell did some of these former GURPS fans migrated into our D&D community?



Bah. This is just another sign that I feel old and can't keep up with the new community of D&D gamers.

Lol. I am one of those GURPs GMs. I left D&D after 2E for GURPs. 3E brought me back precisely because it had a lot of things I liked about GURPs (some universality, some tighter mechanics) along with the things I liked about D&D (classes and levels).

But the sad truth is, a lot of gamers are anti-corporate and anti-business and expect game companies to run at "break even plus $1". Which works fine until something goes wrong. That's why you see so many great game companies who make great, profitable games go out of business.

And again, it isn't just GURPs that does this. Every major game company does it. Heck, Green Ronin did with M&M and RPGObjects is on a second edition of a couple of popular lines.

It's actually something approaching a real business model.

 

[Tewligan]

3E is where I stop, I will only look into 4E Forgotten Realms products, and it'd have to heavily filled with more lore than crunch for me to actually purchase it.

and

But with 4e coming about, i'm done and wont pick up anything unless i feel it might be useful with my current DnD game.

Heh heh - you two have really taken a firm stand against 4e "Oh, I'm not buying any 4e stuff, unless it's something I want to buy!"

 

[Melkor]

Bah. This is just another sign that I feel old and can't keep up with the new community of D&D gamers.

Most of the time, that's exactly how I feel.