D&D General Nolzur creates inclusive miniatures, people can't handle it.

[Frozen_Heart]

I suspect what's driven 90% of this conversation isn't the miniature or concept of adventurers in wheelchairs directly.

It's people attacking those who have the opposite opinion of it which has kept the entire thread going for so many posts.

 

[Hussar]

That's obviously because "inclusion" is a major topic in the ongoing culture war. You weren't aware of that?

No, I get it. I just can't frankly believe that I'm seeing it being played out over a 2 inch piece of plastic.

 

[Zardnaar]

My impression is that people are reacting to the fact that people are going on at length about how they don't want to use this in their game. And, again, I have to wonder why this specific mini is generating all these responses.

I said I wouldn't use it in one specific game because of the technology. It's late 19th century or 20th century tech.

To me it's like asking for a rifle or grenade or a steam engine. The mini by itself doesn't bother me.

I also said the player was welcome to play and next campaign happy to accommodate and can build that campaign from the ground up.

Even if I allowed it it's really the wrong game for it. I've based the campaign gravity on Assassins Creed Odyssey am R18 game.Think stealth and jumping and climbing things. I wouldn't allow an aquatic species on a desert world for similar reason.

If the player insisted in it I probably wouldn't want that player anyway. It's a hypothetical scenario but if some random turned up and started telling me what to do in my own game I spent several weeks developing and I've wanted to do it since 2E Age of Heroes and actively offering it since 2019.

Read the classics some not very nice things happened in them. Well my games including that it's not designed to represent modern world. Discussed with players and a new player suggested it.

 

[Hussar]

I said I wouldn't use it in one specific game because of the technology. It's late 19th century or 20th century tech.

To me it's like asking for a rifle or grenade or a steam engine. The mini by itself doesn't bother me.

I also said the player was welcome to play and next campaign happy to accommodate and can build that campaign from the ground up.

Even if I allowed it it's really the wrong game for it. I've based the campaign gravity on Assassins Creed Odyssey am R18 game.Think stealth and jumping and climbing things. I wouldn't alloy an aquatic species on a desert world for similar reason.

If the player insisted in it I probably wouldn't want that player anyway. It's a hypothetical scenario but if some random turned up and started telling me what to do in my own game I spent several weeks developing and I've wanted to do it since 2E Age of Heroes and actively offering it since 2019.

Read the classics some not very nice things happened in them. Well my games including that it's not designed to represent modern world. Discussed with players and a new player suggested it.

Why are you telling me this? Why should I care? You aren't going to use the mini. You've stated that repeatedly. You've stated why you won't use the mini repeatedly. Great. I hear you and I understand.

Was there something else?

 

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

Why are you telling me this? Why should I care? You aren't going to use the mini. You've stated that repeatedly. You've stated why you won't use the mini repeatedly. Great. I hear you and I understand.

Was there something else?

Why are you telling us that you don't care?

 

[Zardnaar]

Why are you telling me this? Why should I care? You aren't going to use the mini. You've stated that repeatedly. You've stated why you won't use the mini repeatedly. Great. I hear you and I understand.

Was there something else?

Might wanna stop making insinuations then and politely telling people to shut up. Just a thought.

 

[Hussar]

Why are you telling us that you don't care?

I'm the bad guy here? Seriously?

Hey, whatever floats your boat.

 

[Alzrius]

I'm the bad guy here? Seriously?

I mean, you kind of made it clear in another thread that you think people having different preferences are arguing in bad faith, and are trying to ram those preferences down your throat. If that's your headspace when you respond to other people, then yes, it does kind of make you look like the bad guy.

 

[Dire Bare]

I'm the bad guy here? Seriously?

No, you're not the bad guy here. I'm with you and the OP 100% on the topic. But for your own mental health, its probably best to just walk away.

Some folks prioritize the wrong things, IMO of course, such as a campaign theme over being inclusive of those who are different, like the disabled. And when called out on it, don't like the pushback. That's the point of the OP, and we've seen plenty of it in this thread.

I take heart that the industry, and society more broadly, is moving towards being more inclusive. Heck, the fact these miniatures exist at all is pretty awesome! There is backlash, of course, which is the point of the OP, but generally speaking most publishers are striving to make their products as inclusive as possible, and more and more gamers are willing to be more inclusive at their home tables.

 

[aco175]

Blind characters are immune to gaze attacks, and while they may have a penalty to certain rolls overall (not Disadvantage — that's for the "blinded" condition, which is a sudden temporary condition and doesn't reflect long-term blindness), darkness and invisibility are not an obstacle.

I would have thought being blind granted the blinded condition by default.