Off to War (always recruiting) OCC Year 2:

[Aldern Foxglove]

Hmm, need to look at the level up process. But its a level of wizard - Elf Generalist. In place of familiar I believe we agreed I could take back my feat from 1st level - used to get a familiar. Otherwise I think its pretty straight forward.

 

[Spade]

Hi!

I'm entirely new to this, but it should be fun anyways.

I'm still thinking up what my character should be, but I figured I should say "hi" first.

 

[HolyMan]

End random ramblazation!

Addon: btw, what dos "Humans get know ability adjustment" mean? dos that mean we can go and give our characters a +2 in one stat for a -2 in an other?

Hi!

I'm entirely new to this, but it should be fun anyways.

I'm still thinking up what my character should be, but I figured I should say "hi" first.

Hi to both of you and as for know - it should be no ability adjustment -

Welcome to EnWorld, if the two of you were to make characters I would through you into the main camp until the current over adventure were complete as it is hard getting alot of humans into the elven lands. But in camp I may have you do some interesting related things to the over all campagin and of course meet Dellex.

If you wish to be a lycanthrope later that would be a better way of going about it. You could play that you are cursed, just not willing to use the ability to shapechange for fear of getting caught. And later when we have it worked out you could use whatever crunch is decided for you.

Hope to see you about the threads.

HM

 

[HolyMan]

That sounds like what we did AFg just let me know when you are done deciding on stuff and I'll give Aver a look over.

HM

 

[Dragonwriter]

Quick suggestion on the whole lycanthrope thing:

Rather than opening up the racial HD+LA can-o-worms and the stupefying extra abilities were-anythings get, what about using the Shapeshift Druid variant from PHB2?

You could play it up as a racial ability, rather than a magic/class ability... Maybe re-skin the other forms (like Aerial, Forest Avenger and Elemental Fury, though the last two are a LONG way off) as tapping into a more powerful/primal/elemental/primordial form (or even a strange, long-forgotten hybrid in the case of Aerial).

It's easier, gives you variety and gives other class features and avoids the nightmare of Racial Classes. EDIT: Oh yeah, and it avoids the Racial Alignment most Lycanthropes deal with.

Or, as HM seems in a generous mood, you could maybe try to get Shifter (Eberron Campaign Setting) OK'd. They're were-descended humans who retain a little of their forebears animalistic qualities.

 

[Zerith]

oh I don't plan on him being unable to; its just he won't have str +6, Dex +8 and con +4 in addition to sprint, trip, low light and sent off bat, or most of the other goodies the Lycans get.
(and to justify being able to use a humanoid shape with natural weapons and an animal form [Cheetah, yesh, I r odd], I was just going to give him a tempory feat that would get replaced latter when he got the requirement to use his animal/hybrid form with out the feat. I figure that would happen by 3th ECL.)

 

[HolyMan]

So you wish only the fluff to turn into a creature/hybird and none of the crunch?

But even changing would have a little advantage so maybe replacing a few feats for an SLA #/day to start. I don't think you would need all the abilities (unless yo really wanted them) so you wouldn't be +3 ECL.

DW had some great suggestions and I am going to look into them after I catch up around here.

HM

 

[Zerith]

... Snipped ;
As for the cheese, Shifters I don't think would work: he is meant to be easily written off as an energetic youth, and otherwise not stand out when not getting from A to B to Z much to fast for a normal human on foot (he is going to start with 50 or 60 base speed, yesh, Very, very fast…) and shifters stand out, a lot.

As for a druid, they actually clash with him a bit, he is actually fairly naive; I’ve never think of druids as naïve. (for example, he is going to have a low will save; Druids’ best save is a will save.)

And I never got the whole Racial Alignment for lycanthropes: it says right there that there that their Racial Alignment is assigned arbitrarily. And the proof? Lions would fit definitively under LG given the theme while Hyenas would be CE. Lions eat Hyena cubs, and Vica versa, and (male) Lions will kill Lion cubs that are not their own. (can also point out that Wolfs act a lot more lawfully then Bears or Tigers but this is getting off topic) so yesh, this part of Lycanthropes is just a bit of "Whaaaah????" to me

And as for Racel class levels being a bad thing, depending on the Lycanthrope, you’re getting 4-6 ability scores per a level, the semi wizard BAB can easily get countered, hit chance wise, by the raised Str/Dex. and there no bonus attacks with animal form so it get felt even less there
(Rats get 8 per a level, Wolfs get 5, Dire wolfs get 4, Tigers get 3 and 2 3ths, Cheetahs get 6)

Also, forgot to ask, are flaws allowed?

… Sniped again!!! O_O

I do want the perks ( wouldn't? XD) but I also know that starting out at ECL 4 or 7 is just unreasonable given the start out level of the RP and how it’s set up, so instead I’m proposing having my character grow into its race levels/level adjustment so that is ECL is earned and not just a “I want it! Give me now! Ger!” hand out of lame B***ieness. That said, I’m not really attached to getting the fluff one way or another. But yes, depending on the options, as long as it can walk like a Lycan, shapshift like a lycan it will work as a lycan for me.

 

[HolyMan]

Sorry we are not playing with flaws.

So you would be willing to play that you are a lycan though you would have no abilities till you hit a lvl that would be equal to your class lvl + 3??

If that's the case it could be worked around it would just take a while (maybe a year/year and a half real time). But this game I plan for the long haul so is up to you.

HM

 

[Zerith]

ya, more or less, but as I said before I would like to use a feat, that would be replaced when the character gets the ability through a level up, to grant the shape shifting ability.

And now that your saying no flaws I might as well ask if you're allowing traits.